NL100 Zoom river decision

[BorntoBubble]

PokerStars Zoom Hand #109724254459:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2014/01/07 3:45:45 WET [2014/01/06 22:45:45 ET]
Table 'Triangulum' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Naughty_ept ($114.14 in chips)
Seat 2: dchouiida ($52.40 in chips)
Seat 3: juarnes ($538.78 in chips)
Seat 4: evYpe ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: paymeback83 ($146.89 in chips)
Seat 6: P4K3R Face ($112.36 in chips)
dchouiida: posts small blind $0.50
juarnes: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to P4K3R Face [Ah ]
evYpe: folds
paymeback83: folds
P4K3R Face: raises $2 to $3
Naughty_ept: folds
dchouiida: folds
juarnes: raises $6.50 to $9.50
P4K3R Face: calls $6.50
*** FLOP *** [ As]
juarnes: bets $11.55
P4K3R Face: calls $11.55
*** TURN *** [ As] []
juarnes: checks
P4K3R Face: checks
*** RIVER *** [ As ] []
juarnes: bets $1


Whats are plan from here guys and would anyone do anything different earlier?

[BorntoBubble]

*** RIVER *** [ As ] []
juarnes: bets $1
P4K3R Face: raises $18.35 to $19.35
juarnes: raises $406.65 to $426
P4K3R Face: calls $71.96 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($334.69) returned to juarnes
*** SHOW DOWN ***

People like or dislike?

[Oxford_HRV]

think villain will always have AJ/Q/K or set, i don't really like AT for playability post flop generally.
are you bluff ctaching after the flop? dont look like villain wants you to fold on river.

i most likely raise go with it on the flop 26/call (26/fold 150bb+)

river bet is probably pretty manipluative to make you turn bluff catchers into thin value raises, not many ppl will be rollin round on zoom 500bb deep min betting river with hands like medium pairs hoping you bricked a FD with no pair 

[Honeybadger]

Raising flop would be pretty bad. Sorry to Oxford_HRV if this seems critical of you. I can explain why raising flop is bad if you would like me to?

On river, raise/fold rather than raise/call.

BTW, a good mental trick to orientate yourself vs tiny bets is to treat them almost exactly as you would treat a check. After all, a tiny bet is not that much different to a check.

[pleno1]

On the river there is a lot of missed draws and our perceived range is not ax heavy because we checked the turn thus river is an easy value raise as we can legitimately represent a bunch if draws.

If he jams then I guess fold.

Getting it in otf would be criminal. Not only would it way too thin fr value but it would also make our calling range is three bet pots insanely weak and thus our range would be way too weak.

Villain is a reg btw

[SuuPRlim]

BTW, a good mental trick to orientate yourself vs tiny bets is to treat them almost exactly as you would treat a check. After all, a tiny bet is not that much different to a check.

Exactly how i approach them, a few people do like to use them to induce though, which is what he has prolly done here, so just be a little wary of that - this is where note-taking becomes pretty good, we don't have to view these bets as anything other than a check, but if we collect some good info we might be able to make some checks we wouldnt generally have made etc.

[BorntoBubble]

I had about 100 hands on the villian so nothing tog ive me much help apart from due to me not having a shed load of hands i can kind of assume multitabling reg for me to have that many hands on them.

I tend to take these small bets like i would a check but in this case i re-raised small on the river to induce, i think my bet was like 40-45% of pot. whereas if he had just checked to me i may have made it like 70 odd.

For me once he jammed i could not place him on many value hands that he would do this with and just felt it was heavily weighted towards his bluffs trying to get me to fold Ax.

Pads i had just watched your video before this session btw and on my mind throughout was thinking about hands in a lot more detail... and not folding

[muckthenuts]

No one mentioned preflop so far - is peeling fine here?

[Honeybadger]

No one mentioned preflop so far - is peeling fine here?

Was going to mention it, then thought who cares it is only preflop.

[BorntoBubble]

No one mentioned preflop so far - is peeling fine here?

Was going to mention it, then thought who cares it is only preflop.

I Dont think i peel here all the time probably about 60/70 percent. Occasionally i will hit that bet button again and put it down to a misclick and occasionally ill fold.

[Oxford_HRV]

Raising flop would be pretty bad. Sorry to Oxford_HRV if this seems critical of you. I can explain why raising flop is bad if you would like me to?

yeah don't worry about it, its real spewy to get it in. i think i prefer folding pre out of any option anyway but we do call bb 3b i never 4b AK AQ ect so i might bluff AT here. it doesnt have any merit i know and we dont even have but sometimes i just feel a spot and go with it ^_^ albeit i do now think 26 is a pretty bad raise

but back to the thread, i'd click it back on the river for value