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« on: January 19, 2014, 01:57:39 PM »

Wandering through town today and there are three instances where there is a Greggs bakery within about eight shops of another Greggs. Literally you could hurl a sausage roll from one and it would land in the other.

I'm sure there is a really good business reason for this, anyone got any ideas why they can afford to open so close to each other? Seems counter intuitive, but they are obviously doing really well from it.
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2014, 02:00:05 PM »

Probably due to foot traffic or something in each area dunno, but these stores obviously know what they are doing.

Amazes me they are doing so well, they aren't even especially good, just ok for the most part.
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2014, 02:09:26 PM »

Never had one before

Had one today very early as barely ate a thing yesterday and was hank marvin

£2 for a sausage and bacon sandwich with a cup of tea

For the price was excellent no fat on the bacon the sausage was at least good quality and the tea was ok

I now understand why they do so well charging so relatively little for a decent quality snack/meal.

To compare the "deli" down the road sells the same thing for £4.50 and heats the bacon and sausage in the microwave and it is a very cheap meat used
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2014, 02:11:34 PM »

Breakfast stuff is pretty good for the price.

Pastries are joke hit and miss, such high variance.

Sandwiches are also pretty good value.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2014, 02:12:21 PM »

Never had a breakfast sandwich, I shall sample this week......
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2014, 02:15:30 PM »

Steak bake tho
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2014, 02:44:58 PM »

Breakfast stuff is pretty good for the price.

Pastries are joke hit and miss, such high variance.


Agree with this, though I think the upswings more than make up for the down.

Steak bake tho

Would also add, Cooplands do a Cheese and Broccoli pastry that is the abso nuts too.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2014, 02:55:24 PM »

Brekkie is really tasty. Would recommend
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2014, 02:58:50 PM »

Steak bake tho
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2014, 03:39:22 PM »

Didn't they buy out a rival recently (Bakers Oven??).  I assume that also might be a reason, as rebranding the shops was cheaper than ending the leases early?
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2014, 03:50:39 PM »

On the main shopping street in Darlo there are 3 Greggs, plus 4 other independent bakers.

All within 300 yards.
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2014, 03:51:20 PM »

Didn't they buy out a rival recently (Bakers Oven??).  I assume that also might be a reason, as rebranding the shops was cheaper than ending the leases early?

In this particular example, they were never Bakers Oven stores, in some instances they have put a brand new Greggs next to an old one.
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2014, 04:20:48 PM »

are they franchises or managed units?
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2014, 04:44:17 PM »

Wandering through town today and there are three instances where there is a Greggs bakery within about eight shops of another Greggs. Literally you could hurl a sausage roll from one and it would land in the other.

I'm sure there is a really good business reason for this, anyone got any ideas why they can afford to open so close to each other? Seems counter intuitive, but they are obviously doing really well from it.

It's simple business logic really, Barry, or it is in my view.

The nature of their shops means they have a maximum capacity, adding extra assistants does not help, they just get in each others way. The business has several "rush periods" (on the way to work, mid-morning, lunchtime, mid-afternoon, on the way home from work, before/after going out for ther evening), & in between those periods, is relatively quiet, so extra staff is a bit of an expensive solution.

Entry costs to the sarny/sausage roll shop market are very small - anyone can set up a barrow, or burger-bar type place, or lease an empty shop nearby. 

So Greggs develop the local market, then parasite traders nick their business.

Best answer is to open several shops close to each other = bugger off parasite traders.

I must say, I think they are a wonderful Business, they have effectively created a market, & are now serving it well. In my eyes, they are nearly up there with GB & Ireland's Greatest Business. They are SO successful, the haters are on their case. And that is seriously successful.

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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2014, 04:50:31 PM »

Hmmm did they create it? I'm inclined to think the coffee shop brands have created more of it and greggs have turned more from a bakery type business into a sandwich/lunch type place to nick their slice of that market.
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