$11 1R1A Last 4, Line Check Plz

[jjandellis]

Chip leader villain running 42/38...kinda seems bad though

http://www.handconverter.com/hands/2429553

[Flash92]

check back flop? Prefer it even more as we have

Call turn/bet if checked to.

[rfgqqabc]

fold pre. check back flop. as played call turn.

[WotRTheChances]

fold pre. check back flop. as played call turn.

[action man]

fold pre?

[rfgqqabc]

fold pre?

when we fold shortie shoves more and big stacks can pressure us. Not a huge deal getting a raise through when we can maintain re-shoving as a move in our arsenal.

[action man]

i mean if the big stacks are agg we can raise/4b jam if they are passive we can r/f can't have open fold  in 11c here

[lucky_scrote]

PF is villain dependent. If I'm in the BB I wouldn't recommend opening too much because I'm sticking it in your eye a ton. Naturally it will make me chips if you're opening too much and you have to call extra tight because the button only has 10 bigs (ICM consideration).

To make it even worse you probably have to just about fold to the button jam.

As played I bet flop too, he shouldn't have any aces in his range and we are expected to bet here. You can check back flop to induce vs some stupid opponents though. On the river he's not repping much at all but at the same time you don't see people take this crazy line as a bluff any more.

[action man]

i mean, presumably we're playing in games were rolled for here. why dont we just r/4bet jam vs aggro guys and just r/f vs guys who havent been using icm to 3bet much on the final. id just raise/snap this vs anyone who has been using icm. Stars payouts aren't as steep as full tilt
and were getting it in 60/40 a heap of the time. the reason people are used to icm fucking people is because people are folding Ax 4 handed i mean, lets use the the icm to our advantage and assume were getting 3bet light and jammed on light and play the strength of our hand?