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jjandellis
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« on: February 22, 2014, 12:34:24 PM »

Playing 25/25 last night.

My image: I should think very solid. I've not played much, but due to losing a pretty huge chunk early on (flopped set Aces versus Turned flush, by a bluffy villain that made big vb on river), I've had all my hands go to show down. I've doubled up, lost a bit, then trebled up, then doubled again. Holdings shown have been AK, KK, my AA (obv) and J8s (on amazing board for me where I get it all in v 2 others).

Villain: Seems internet savvy, perhaps plays local casinos/festivals and maybe up to London sometimes - but doesn't venture far North up to DTD etc. Have seen him in an event before and seems ok but not amazing. Loves chatting hand shit to others at table. So I think he's gonna make some pretty predictable plays.

Hand

Blinds 400/800 a 100

MP: Me (11900)  raise to 1600

Btn: Villain (26000) 3b to 2500

SB & BB fold

Pot is 6200

My thoughts

So this stumped me...

Preflop with just shy of 15bb I had considered open jamming, but decided against - now looking back I think this might well have been the best play.  That said the idea was for the raise to look superstrong.  Obv if face resistance and really feel I have to fold, then I would still have 13 bb.

My plan had been to 4b jam, perhaps fold to a 3b jam (player dependant)...but this was on the notion of facing a 2.25 - 3x 3b.

The click back threw me somewhat.  I know that he knows that I know that I should really be 4b jamming my stack...but his raise looks ridic strong. He is good enough to know that 3b lite would be disastorous for him here with the eff stack sizes, as I am likely to jam...and that tied with my image tells me that this 3b is super strong.  I think I'm facing TT+,AQ,AK perhaps AJ.

To 4b jam against this range would be awful I think...but then folding looks terrible too. I'm getting 900 to win 6200 so something 14%.

I think I can peel, see a flop and check fold if necessary.

Flop comes q99 (all red 2 d)..I check fold to his eff jam.

Thoughts on best line here (apart from jam pre)?
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2014, 01:41:05 PM »

I'd open jam pre, i guess once he's 3bet this tiny you have to peel (if he's 3-betting JJ+ and AK I guess you can fold... but dat price). c/f that flop, but you basically have to go with it on any A-high, Jxx or xxxcc flops.
On some tables I would raise-decide pre, if i've got a bunch of super tight players i can happily fold vs any resistance. Generally not ideal to get peeled or have to fold a hand this strong though, so jamming makes all these issues redundant and is decently +cEV
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2014, 02:07:41 PM »

Jam pre, in a 25/25 you're gonna get peeled so much.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2014, 07:28:27 PM »

Its close to a jam pre. Table dependent though. Pretty much what WotR said.
You can raise fold but when his 3 bet his so small you gotta call and take a flop.
Deffo just check folding flop.
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