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« on: February 23, 2014, 11:10:45 PM »

I am literally tearing my hair out at the moment.

I seem to be getting a huge amount of badbeats at the moment online, constantly getting it in good...constantly sucked out on. Its to the point where I've started predicting the turn/river blow.

I very rarely if ever moan about run bad, but this is mentally destroying me now.  Is there anyway of using my HUD (HEM1) for finding out how below ev I'm running in tourneys at the mo?  It would probs be helpful to my mental game to be able to grind on through knowing that variance will swing around!

All advice greatly appreciated
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2014, 11:12:25 PM »

Don't play MTTs
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2014, 11:13:17 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2014, 11:18:53 PM »

You'll become on of those guys checking the equivalent of their ev every other tourney if I tell you how. Negative thoughts not going to help, just play your best, study and improve.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2014, 11:29:00 PM »

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I knew someone would post that bollox, didn't expect it to be you Tom



It was meant as a joke, I thought you would take it that way. I didn't mean to offend.

Please accept my apologies.
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2014, 11:31:38 PM »

The 2 measures in hem are winnings vs ev adjusted, which is simply a measure of chips won. Also there is bb/100 and evbb/100 which measure by each individual blind level. The latter is probably a more accurate measure of run bad.

For example the latter in my hem db is very close to each other over 2 million+ hands, whereas the former has an 8 figure difference!
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2014, 11:36:45 PM »

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I knew someone would post that bollox, didn't expect it to be you Tom

You'll become on of those guys checking the equivalent of their ev every other tourney if I tell you how. Negative thoughts not going to help, just play your best, study and improve.


Studying alot, reading and videos. I am literally constantly getting 15-25% ered...and they're the nice beats. I just want a way of measuring it (being proven wrong maybe, so I can just move on)

I'm sure it'll just become more of a mindset leak. You can check lots of things in Hold'em Manager reports, such as % of coinflips won or compare your chips won vs ev chips won. Or ev bb/100 vs actual bb/100. Unfortunately they take a long time to converge to anything meaningful. I think ev bb/100 is the best stat to look at but I can't look myself. I dont want to know how good I run.
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2014, 11:45:15 PM »

Last year I ran unreal good for 40,000 hands on the Internet.

Then I went to business and played 10-20times bigger stakes and ran horrific over about 2,500 hands. I'd prolly had 2 periods in those 40k hands previous where I'd run equally as badly and not even really noticed. I lost 3x in the 2,500 hands I'd won in the 40k previously.

Which buttons we press, how many chips we put in the pot and whether we stack in random piles or neat stacks of 20...these are thing we can control and we should focus our energy and brain power onto those things...

Russian politics, the weather and how good we run and where we run good are things we can't control, and therefore energy spent thinking or worrying about them is energy that is wasted.

You don't wake up in the middle of the night sweating over Russian immigration policy, so don't sweat about this either.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2014, 11:47:37 PM »

You don't wake up in the middle of the night sweating over Russian immigration policy, so don't sweat about this either.

If you wish to pursue the activities as per our conversation the other day, I suggest you seriously reconsider.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2014, 11:59:30 PM »

You don't wake up in the middle of the night sweating over Russian immigration policy, so don't sweat about this either.

If you wish to pursue the activities as per our conversation the other day, I suggest you seriously reconsider.

1/ dish bags
2/ crushing bro's
3/ banging ho's

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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2014, 11:59:52 PM »

Variance is a joke, such a high percentage of people have no clue about it and then those who have a decent understanding of it don't think it'll happen to them, it's pretty boring.

Assuming you aren't playing for a living don't worry about it, play and hope to run good, if it bothers you that much find something else to do, coz MTT grinding is not much fun.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2014, 12:00:53 AM »

Variance is a joke, such a high percentage of people have no clue about it and then those who have a decent understanding of it don't think it'll happen to them, it's pretty boring.

Assuming you aren't playing for a living don't worry about it, play and hope to run good, if it bothers you that much find something else to do, coz MTT grinding is not much fun.

Had a smile all day and knocked it in. #witheroldpros
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2014, 01:17:54 AM »

I am literally tearing my hair out at the moment.

I seem to be getting a huge amount of badbeats at the moment online, constantly getting it in good...constantly sucked out on. Its to the point where I've started predicting the turn/river blow.

I very rarely if ever moan about run bad, but this is mentally destroying me now.  Is there anyway of using my HUD (HEM1) for finding out how below ev I'm running in tourneys at the mo?  It would probs be helpful to my mental game to be able to grind on through knowing that variance will swing around!

All advice greatly appreciated

In a similar way drug addicts talk to frank, tilt/run bad problems? Talk to rexas Wink
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2014, 04:40:31 PM »

Had an idea about this a couple of years ago surprised nobody has taken it up. Regardless of the value of it I feel sure that a well marketed piece of software that measured variance would sell really well. Opportunity for someone :]
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2014, 06:31:58 PM »

Might just sell a random piece of kit which tells you you run bad. It's what every player thinks and wants to hear
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