1-2 NLHE River Spot

[Mehtab]

Playing in a 1-2 game in Bosnia where I get in  a hand 3 ways. Villain has me down as loose aggressive (in a previous session having 4bet shoved bottom pair against him believving he'd fold an overpair to an 8 high board, he happened to have flopped middle set and i showed my cards at showdown so he had to show his set) - I obviously have him down as a pretty-very tight especially post flop. Have also seen him make pre flop re raises thinking this must be a steal - it's too big to be genuine hand and he's turned over KK a couple of these times, so have not once seen him bluff in 3 poker cash sessions (as in seen his cards when/if he's been bluffing) He's also probably the only (other) competent player at the table - the rest are whales.

I have a stack of €270 he has me covered.

I straddle to 4, Villain UTG+1 makes it 11, Whale calls UTG +2 rest fold I make it up with 

Flop -  - checks round

Turn -  -  I lead for €16 with a gutshot and flushdraw figuring i take it down most of the time and also build a pot to hit/steal if i do get called. Villain calls - pretty quicky. Whale folds.

River - - I lead for €31 expecting to get called by AQ/KQ and take the pot down. Villain goes into his stack and raises to €101. This is the absolute last thing I expected to happen in this hand...

Thoughts?

[titaniumbean]

he probably has a better flush therefore fold?

I would likely make the turn slightly bigger than half pot too.



bosnian poker fun though?

[Mehtab]

he probably has a better flush therefore fold?

I would likely make the turn slightly bigger than half pot too.



bosnian poker fun though?

I think turn was me just trying to be consistent with my betting patterns throughout sessions - i.e. generally half pot bets (depending on board runouts)

Bosnia is frustrating place to play.  The play is dog awful by 83% of people. Cold calling 4 bets pre for 35-40% of stacks with J9s or A2s  etc but then won't call all there chips on flush draws when put all in on flops/turns. But to balance this there's virtually no rules enforced- people folding out of turn, betting/calling out of turn, talking when others are in hands, advising people to call etc. And when I "explain" to dealers, card room managers that this can't be done you get the answer "This is Bosnia" - i.e. there are people who play who we don't wanna upset or we might have no kneecaps in the morning. I think I argue and storm out of about 25% of sessions I play but they're too shit to stop going back lol

[SuuPRlim]

if he is passive and calls too much but doesnt really bluff...

then you gotta fold.

you're getting a decent price though so if you wanna toss him the chips I wouldn't blame you.

[muckthenuts]

Player described just has a better flush almost always imo. His line and sizing isn't really consistent with any set/2pr hands and it is super hard for him to be bluffing.

[tight4better]

Puke, feels like a gift but I think I'm flicking it in as well.

[Mehtab]

Probs has a better flush but I flick it in.

Love games in places like this - all the more fun to be a bit edgey!

Whereabouts in Bosnia? Spent alot of time there in the 90's...

I know what you mean about it being more fun and I agree but the lack of rules just pisses me off so much, and I struggle to keep my mouth shut when I get pissed off so I get pretty close to crossing the line. Luckily, they seem to be fond of me so I still have all limbs in tact.

In Sarajevo. Whereabouts were you out here? I guess you were here during the war? What did you think of the place/area?

[TheJokerKing]

as described he cant be bluffing with worse hand, but still flip it in anyway

[wazz]

Every worse flush has some sort of pair or combo draw on the flop and would mostly have been bet on the turn so this is a worse flush a fairly insignificant % of the time. He's also got 56 some of the time but again very rarely and doesn't necessarily raise all his flopped straights on the river. So it's just a question of whether you think he can bluff in this spot. Which most can't. My first thought was 'wtf, call quickly' but after thinking about it and seeing everyone elses' posts I'm ok with a fold.

[Mehtab]

he probably has a better flush therefore fold?

I would likely make the turn slightly bigger than half pot too.



bosnian poker fun though?

Btw - reasoning for making turn bet bigger? And how much would you wanna make it here?