Shoving Range? Incred (3)hundred DTD

[Junior Senior]

Incredible hundred £20k gtd at DTD yesterday.
19 left, 12 get paid. ~£6K ftw, min cash is ~£400.
Avg = ~115K
My stack = 61K
Blinds = 3k/6K a 500
clock = 30 mins, we are ~ 10 mins into this level

I am in the high-jack and we are 9 handed, other table 10 handed.  Remaining players are playing pretty snug and tight with the following demographic; a lady (leethefish's missus to be precise), a very old man (Tim Blake to be precise :-) ), a random chinese kid (a random chinese kid to be precise), one of Herbie's mate's from Hull (Carl i think his name is... to be precise) and all but one (the lady) have me covered.  I think only the BB (Herbie's mate) may call slightly wider than typical as he's getting a bit annoyed with me shoving on him once per round (ish)

What range should i be shoving here unopened?

[Longy]

Wide, top 50% something like that.

[DMorgan]

67% for me according to pokerstove, could be wrong though

22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T2s+,94s+,84s+,74s+,63s+,53s+,43s,A2o+,K2o+,Q4o+,J7o+,T6o+,96o+,86o+,76o

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[Junior Senior]

would we distinguish between online auto-pliot shippage and live situatons? i mean i spent time on describing the demographics and everything.

[DMorgan]

With the proximity to the bubble and people generally not calling off so light live I'd be jamming wider here than online

[nirvana]

With the proximity to the bubble and people generally not calling off so light live I'd be jamming wider here than online

Yep

[strak33]

With the proximity to the bubble and people generally not calling off so light live I'd be jamming wider here than online

I might go as far as the fake look , shove.

[BorntoBubble]

With the proximity to the bubble and people generally not calling off so light live I'd be jamming wider here than online

Yep

Agreed

[pleno1]

Can we r/f? :p

[Junior Senior]

Can we r/f? :p

I don't think so this time BITB

[theprawnidentity]

Nash suggests: 22+,A2s+,A7o+,A5o,K6s+,KTo+,Q8s+,QTo+,J8s+,JTo,T8s+,97s+,87s

Obviously this assumes that everyone is calling nash.

Giving everyone a calling range of: 66+,ATs+,AJo+,KQs
And the bb a calling range of nash (to account for agitated state: 22+,A2s+,A4o+,K8s+,KTo+,QTs+,QJo,JTs

Means we can shove: 22+,A2+,K2s+,K6o+,Q2s+,Q8o+,J4s+,J8o+,T6s+,T8o+,95s+,98o,85s+,87o,75s+,64s+,54s

If the bb is going to be nittier that this and call: 55+,A5s+,A7o+,KTs+,KQo

Then we can shove: 22+,A2+,K2+,Q2+,J2s+,J4o+,T2s+,T6o+,92s+,95o+,82s+,85o+,72s+,75o+,62s+,64o+,52s+,54o,42s+,32s

[Junior Senior]

Nash suggests: 22+,A2s+,A7o+,A5o,K6s+,KTo+,Q8s+,QTo+,J8s+,JTo,T8s+,97s+,87s

Obviously this assumes that everyone is calling nash.

Giving everyone a calling range of: 66+,ATs+,AJo+,KQs
And the bb a calling range of nash (to account for agitated state: 22+,A2s+,A4o+,K8s+,KTo+,QTs+,QJo,JTs

Means we can shove: 22+,A2+,K2s+,K6o+,Q2s+,Q8o+,J4s+,J8o+,T6s+,T8o+,95s+,98o,85s+,87o,75s+,64s+,54s

If the bb is going to be nittier that this and call: 55+,A5s+,A7o+,KTs+,KQo

Then we can shove: 22+,A2+,K2+,Q2+,J2s+,J4o+,T2s+,T6o+,92s+,95o+,82s+,85o+,72s+,75o+,62s+,64o+,52s+,54o,42s+,32s

Thats great. Where can i get the software you use? I think it is so important to accurately and honestly assign calling ranges of all other players to then get the correct shoving range.  I actually think you online sng wizards under estimate how tight the calling ranges is of the people in these types of tournaments.

Fwiw i shoved A8o and was called otb by QQ although wasnt snapped off.

I know the A8o in this spot is deffo a a shove but wondered what thoughts were on how far down the range we should be shoving given proximity to bubble and how tight these guys call and the shallowness of stacks. Average wasnt even 20bbs

[theprawnidentity]

Tbh I did think my range perhaps was an underestimate but I like to give myself a bit of room for error.

The software I use is ICMIZER which can be found at: http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/

Be aware theres a button at the top to switch between cEV and ICM EV.

[Junior Senior]

Tbh I did think my range perhaps was an underestimate but I like to give myself a bit of room for error.

The software I use is ICMIZER which can be found at: http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/

Be aware theres a button at the top to switch between cEV and ICM EV.

Ta.

[wazz]

With the dynamic as described - assuming we don't have a crazy image - I'm going with top 75% of hands here I think