courcheval hi/lo

[Ironside]

i have played a cpl of these now and won one the other day struggling a little though with hand strengh and betting with it being NL

is my pre and flop bets correct considering i am OOP and is it a easy call/shove when it comes back to me?

PokerStars Hand #113214080279: Tournament #876988791, $8.00+$0.80 USD Courchevel Hi/Lo No Limit - Level V (50/100) - 2014/03/13 17:54:31 WET [2014/03/13 13:54:31 ET]
Table '876988791 8' 8-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: johnnyd182 (3546 in chips)
Seat 2: sloof14 (4624 in chips)
Seat 3: Inyzh (4030 in chips)
Seat 4: funkyleo (3003 in chips)
Seat 5: Karlie68000 (5275 in chips)
Seat 6: Imarquitos (947 in chips)
Seat 8: Ironside (5050 in chips)
Imarquitos: posts small blind 50
Ironside: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [ Ah ]
*** PRE-FLOP *** []
johnnyd182: folds
sloof14: raises 100 to 200
Inyzh: folds
funkyleo: folds
Karlie68000: calls 200
Imarquitos: folds
Ironside: raises 250 to 450
sloof14: calls 250
Karlie68000: calls 250
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Ironside: bets 450
sloof14: raises 3724 to 4174 and is all-in
Karlie68000: calls 4174

[Doobs]

I don't play this game, but play a lot of NLO8.  That bet sizing pre looks disastrous.  You get so many bad calls, pot or jam.

 The flop bet looks terrible too.  Just fold now, AA, 23, ss, so either we are crushed or all sorts of outs you have to dodge.

[pleno1]

i have played a cpl of these now and won one the other day

got to here.

very thin!

[rfgqqabc]

You look like you have a lockdown on the board preflop, but equities will still run quite close and it is more than feasible that if it comes a low spade then you won't be favourite. Definitely go bigger pre, this might be one of the times I don't go for full pot, but it would still be very big. Got to fold the flop. Against As2s and 3 random cards you have 51.58% equity, so against 2 guys it is possible you will be in dead last. Trying to dodge every low/spade in the deck isn't much fun especially when they will have backdoors too.

Our opponents will make fundamental errors and the more we increase our betsize preflop, the bigger mistake they make. I think close to 950 is correct, it sets up a flop committing bet or checkraise which is perfect. We do have a really strong hand, virtually the hand I'd pick out if I could select the cards pre. I don't mind a jam in this spot either. Our opponents might even call it off, especially in this tournament. I've played it 4/5 times and its delightfully soft. I think if we had 25 bigs or less than jamming would be correct but this feels like one of the hands that is too strong to do that. (Say we had KK449 jamming is almost certainly correct.)

Check/fold flop btw, betting is just a waste.

[Ironside]

thanks i got it in and won half the pot but after i thought it was a mistake getting it in

[mulhuzz]

You look like you have a lockdown on the board preflop, but equities will still run quite close and it is more than feasible that if it comes a low spade then you won't be favourite. Definitely go bigger pre, this might be one of the times I don't go for full pot, but it would still be very big. Got to fold the flop. Against As2s and 3 random cards you have 51.58% equity, so against 2 guys it is possible you will be in dead last. Trying to dodge every low/spade in the deck isn't much fun especially when they will have backdoors too.

Our opponents will make fundamental errors and the more we increase our betsize preflop, the bigger mistake they make. I think close to 950 is correct, it sets up a flop committing bet or checkraise which is perfect. We do have a really strong hand, virtually the hand I'd pick out if I could select the cards pre. I don't mind a jam in this spot either. Our opponents might even call it off, especially in this tournament. I've played it 4/5 times and its delightfully soft. I think if we had 25 bigs or less than jamming would be correct but this feels like one of the hands that is too strong to do that. (Say we had KK449 jamming is almost certainly correct.)

Check/fold flop btw, betting is just a waste.

really agree with this.

as a general rule, just press 'pot' unless you can think of a great reason not to. Having a shite low in KK449 is a great reason not to, e.g which is why we can happily jam this hand.

[Ironside]

Last time I was playing hi/lo I was getting told not to bet pot by flushy ok it's been about 2 years now have things changed or is the betting in courcheval and Omaha hi lol different

I have been doing ok min raising opening bets it's the 3bet sizes I need to work on will use pot and see how it goes

[rfgqqabc]

Last time I was playing hi/lo I was getting told not to bet pot by flushy ok it's been about 2 years now have things changed or is the betting in courcheval and Omaha hi lol different

I have been doing ok min raising opening bets it's the 3bet sizes I need to work on will use pot and see how it goes

Generally 3betting should be a largish size, I'm not saying I always pot it but in most cases our opponent folding a hand with 40% equity is going to be a great result. In low stakes o8 people tend to be very weak, so you can get away with larger sizings. Generally at 100/200 I would be happy to minraise. I might make it bigger in this comp specifically due to the antes but people still defend their big blind poorly in general.