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« on: March 15, 2014, 10:17:45 PM »

what should villain call with?

PokerStars Hand #113328938012: Tournament #877041218, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXII (3000/6000) - 2014/03/15 23:00:42 CET [2014/03/15 18:00:42 ET]
Table '877041218 21' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: yenomrtgllwi (325251 in chips)
Seat 2: JETS_AA (165916 in chips)
Seat 3: GalaxyForce (241715 in chips)
Seat 4: SamuelBT (92780 in chips)
Seat 5: leopeluca (124955 in chips)
Seat 6: WhooooKidd (112328 in chips)
Seat 7: pads1161 (278277 in chips)
Seat 9: apestyles (43778 in chips)
yenomrtgllwi: posts the ante 600
JETS_AA: posts the ante 600
GalaxyForce: posts the ante 600
SamuelBT: posts the ante 600
leopeluca: posts the ante 600
WhooooKidd: posts the ante 600
pads1161: posts the ante 600
apestyles: posts the ante 600
WhooooKidd: posts small blind 3000
pads1161: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [ ]
apestyles: folds
yenomrtgllwi: folds
JETS_AA: folds
GalaxyForce: folds
SamuelBT: folds
leopeluca: raises 6000 to 12000
WhooooKidd: folds
pads1161: raises 265677 to 277677 and is all-in
leopeluca:


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7k
5.3
3.6
3k
2.4k
1.8
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2014, 10:32:52 PM »

66+
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2014, 10:38:34 PM »

66+

77+ AJs+ AQos?
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2014, 12:39:26 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2014, 12:45:10 AM »

The ranges here feel way too loose. Like 99+ AK+? I know pads can be v.wide but there is a 7bb stack etc. I dont see myself folding AQ in game.
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2014, 01:08:17 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2014, 01:21:07 AM »

The ranges here feel way too loose. Like 99+ AK+? I know pads can be v.wide but there is a 7bb stack etc. I dont see myself folding AQ in game.

Sorry my post was tongue in cheek
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2014, 01:23:31 AM »

The ranges here feel way too loose. Like 99+ AK+? I know pads can be v.wide but there is a 7bb stack etc. I dont see myself folding AQ in game.

Sorry my post was tongue in cheek

Duh! my bad.
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2014, 02:20:59 AM »

66+ A9o+ QK KJs
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2014, 02:48:45 AM »

66+ A9o+ QK KJs

seems pretty bad, pads is in the bb hes gona peel all his 98s K9s stuff
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I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2014, 02:49:37 AM »

66+ A9o+ QK KJs

seems pretty bad, pads is in the bb hes gona peel all his 98s K9s QJo stuff

edit : doh, meant to edit not quote myself can we not delete posts on here?
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I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2014, 03:35:17 AM »

Like A8s+ ATo+, KQ. With pairs probs rip pre anything i'm not r/calling with. Probs just jam KJs QJs pre too.
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2014, 08:58:23 AM »

Whaaaaaat?! These seem joke wide!
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2014, 09:51:53 AM »

Whaaaaaat?! These seem joke wide!

Definite ICM considerations here. There are some shorties that are probably laddering. It has to be pretty tight, prob TT+ /AQs+. AQo right on the borderline for me.

Also depends a bit on whether villain feels he has an edge vs the competition or whether he feels like he has to gamble as he's outclassed. If he's looking to gamble in big pots he's going to call a lot wider.
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2014, 11:07:55 AM »

Obviously this is going to depend on how wide he is raise folding on the button.  Nash suggests he should steal in this spot (and I'm talking purely from an ICM perspective here) with:

15.8%, 22+ A8s+ A5s-A2s AJo+ K9s+ KJo+ Q9s+ JTs

And we should be jamming with:

42.7%, 22+ A2s+ ATo+ A8o A5o-A3o K2s+ K8o+ Q2s+ Q9o+ J2s+ J9o+ T6s+ T9o 95s+ 98o 85s+ 74s+ 63s+ 52s+ 43s

And he should be calling with:

7.1%, 88+ ATs+ AJo+


The opening range above seems a little bit tight and I don't expect most MTT players to tighter up that much when folded to on the button.  If we alter his button opening range to something like:

36.5%, 22+ A8s+ A6s-A2s A2o+ K4s+ K7o+ Q7s+ Q9o+ J9s+ J9o+ T9s T9o 98s 87s

Which means we should jam:

72.3%, 22+ Kx+ Q2s+ Q3o+ J2s+ J7o+ T2s+ T7o+ 92s+ 97o+ 82s+ 86o+ 72s+ 75o+ 62s+ 65o 52s+ 54o 42s+ 32s

And he should call:

10.4%, 77+ A8s+ ATo+ KJs+ KQo


It really does depend on how wide we think the button is opening.
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