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« on: March 27, 2014, 12:21:17 AM »

12 left, 10 paid we are 9/12 and stacks are as follows

174k
144k (Villain 1)
86k (Villain 2)
47k
42k
33k
30k
28k
28k (Hero)
27k
23k
8k

Blinds 1500/3000/300

Six handed, folds to Hero in in HJ/UTG+1

Villain 2 is in the SB and is calling way wider than he should be. Villain 1 is in the BB and has been running 47/27, generally rofling about and is gunna flick in very wide.

What is our jamming range here?
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2014, 12:24:47 AM »

Im really not sure but ima take a punt at AQs TT?
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2014, 12:51:47 AM »

I think wider, 77+ ATo+ possibly KQs
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2014, 01:03:53 AM »

Probably QQ+ for me so many stacks around 10BB dont need to get involved to much and BB sounds like hes gonna call super wide which is no ideal in a sat.
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2014, 02:29:51 AM »

88+ AJ+ was my instinct before reading responses.
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2014, 02:44:17 AM »

88+ AJ+ was my instinct before reading responses.

Similar here although far from an expert
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2014, 03:58:54 AM »

I think wider, 77+ ATo+ possibly KQs

i'd go with this, or something similar.
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2014, 04:16:03 AM »

Im really not sure but ima take a punt at AQs TT?

Had exact same range in mind. ^^^

Would obv be slightly wider bar these specific reads on the blinds.
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2014, 10:34:31 AM »

All results shown below are based on ICM equity only!


This really depends on how wide the blinds are going to call.  

If they are going to call it off with something like:  22+,A2+,K9s+,KTo+,QJs

Then we have to fold KK.

If they aren't rofling that hard and will call somewhere in the region of:  55+,A8s+,ATo+,KQs

Then we should shove: QQ+,AKs

Basically if they're both calling wider than 16% of hands then we can only shove AA according to ICM.


Not entirely sure this happens IRL though.  I probably shove like AQ+ TT+ here but according to ICM I'm burning money by doing so!!!
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2014, 02:40:58 PM »

If you have a couple of people who are rofling about and calling way too wide you can play hilariously tight. I think even if people are playing correctly then your range should be extra tight still.

Given the poor standard you describe, if I'm 1 tabling then I'm prob folding KK here, would be interested to see what ICMIZER says.
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2014, 02:43:36 PM »

I guess I was in the right ballpark then, I had AJs and folded just wondered what the geneal consensus was. ty Tomsom for the numbers. Was that pulled from ICMIZER?
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2014, 07:57:28 PM »

Probably QQ+ for me so many stacks around 10BB dont need to get involved to much and BB sounds like hes gonna call super wide which is no ideal in a sat.
Like this. Seems super nitty to the eye but think its pretty close.
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2014, 08:24:19 PM »

Think QQ is a bit loose and more I start to think about it KK is really close. If you had just 10k more chips you would (and should) fold aces.
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2014, 08:44:15 PM »

Yeah agreed the type of sat also affects it I think the larger the prize the tighter people will go in my experience it it's say 10 seats to the Sunday million I would say your a lock now but 10 seats to an ept or high scoop or something like that people will happily ( and correctly) fold there way down to 0.0001BB to get that seat
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2014, 08:55:23 PM »

ty Tomsom for the numbers. Was that pulled from ICMIZER?

The numbers were pulled from ICMIZER.

I think even if people are playing correctly then your range should be extra tight still.

This is incorrect.  As the big stacks already have their seat locked up they should be calling really tight.  I can't remember the numbers from earlier but I think if the blinds are calling as they should be (around 4%), then we can jam something like 60%.
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