NLO8

[Ironside]

i got an awkward of 12 bigs
didnt feel the hand was strong enough to shove as 9/10 i am getting the limpers calling
once the big blind has shoved and the EP limpers have called shove i be calling this
there are about 80 players left 54 get paid and i am about 50th
as you can see from hands shown people are playing very loose

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/8510702_485E231544

[Doobs]

i got an awkward of 12 bigs
didnt feel the hand was strong enough to shove as 9/10 i am getting the limpers calling
once the big blind has shoved and the EP limpers have called shove i be calling this
there are about 80 players left 54 get paid and i am about 50th
as you can see from hands shown people are playing very loose

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/8510702_485E231544

Think it is a definite shove pre first time it comes to you, and can't see why you folded it coming back.  You have A2 with one off the best kicker possible for the ace.  I'd much prefer this hand to a bad AA hand. 

Think this all looks bad to me, sorry.

[mulhuzz]

I think jam is best pre.

Once 97 other players have flicked it in I think I prolly just call as well and hope not to be up against the very few combos of AA23/4 which have us in considerable pain and hope to make some flushes.

That said if there were only one caller of the shove I'd prolly fold if I'd limped.

Defo just pile over limpers IMO in a $2r

[Ironside]

i got an awkward of 12 bigs
didnt feel the hand was strong enough to shove as 9/10 i am getting the limpers calling
once the big blind has shoved and the EP limpers have called shove i be calling this
there are about 80 players left 54 get paid and i am about 50th
as you can see from hands shown people are playing very loose

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/8510702_485E231544

Think it is a definite shove pre first time it comes to you, and can't see why you folded it coming back.  You have A2 with one off the best kicker possible for the ace.  I'd much prefer this hand to a bad AA hand. 

Think this all looks bad to me, sorry.

thanks thats why i posted it i am guessing i am gun shy as i talked myself into the limp and the fold when i thought it was a shove

[tikay]

Never limping with this, in this spot, or almost any spot. I really don't like limping with these hands, bet or fold.

We have A-Q, A-2, and a suited ace.

We can rarely be in terrible shape here, unless we run into Aces, even then we are far from dead.

[Ironside]

just a little gun shy was getting scared to get my chips in
lucky i solved that now had power cut so jumped on my ipad
played these 2 hands

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/8511672_A1F4DFD9BC

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/8511678_1BBACDCC48

got back on my pc to bust

[rfgqqabc]

People limp/fold too in these comps, 100% shove pre. I'd call after limping too.

Shove > Limp >>> raise small >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fold pre imo.

Can't work out who you are in 2nd set of hands. Btw, I much much prefer actual hand histories despite it being easier to see stack sizes just because I don't want results to affect the answers in the thread.

[mulhuzz]

Adam - assume you're doing a raise call if you raise aye?

[Ironside]

People limp/fold too in these comps, 100% shove pre. I'd call after limping too.

Shove > Limp >>> raise small >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fold pre imo.

Can't work out who you are in 2nd set of hands. Btw, I much much prefer actual hand histories despite it being easier to see stack sizes just because I don't want results to affect the answers in the thread.

yeah only put the boom out there as i dont think the play is result oriented

2nd set of hands were just what seems stand last cpl of days
i was player 8 in both hands just cold decks
although yesterday they were some real crap floping nut low and high with a top 10 stack and finishing hand knocked out the comp

[rfgqqabc]

Adam - assume you're doing a raise call if you raise aye?

yeah for sure, we have the nuts. It'd be like r/fing AKs.

[Ironside]

does the fact your approaching bubble mean anything after all its 11 buy ins for a min cash

i have pure bubbled and a few close to bubbles this weak in cold decks

[tikay]

does the fact your approaching bubble mean anything after all its 11 buy ins for a min cash

i have pure bubbled and a few close to bubbles this weak in cold decks

All the more reason to get aggro. No room for subtlety here, get it in.

Limping is just terrible, imo.

[rfgqqabc]

does the fact your approaching bubble mean anything after all its 11 buy ins for a min cash

i have pure bubbled and a few close to bubbles this weak in cold decks

In the 3x turbos the stack sizes change really fast and I'm not sure you can pass up an opportunity to make a bunch of chips before the bubble really starts. I'd pretty much ignore it until it really begins to come into effect. Tightening up too early will lead to both itm% decreasing and a lower roi overall. This is slightly different too a standard tournament where tightening up too early might mean you limp into the money a lot more, but have a lower roi. The rapidly changing blinds are fatal. Interestingly, I think a lot of the roi in these events (not in particular the o8 3x turbos but just 3x turbos) comes from playing the rebuy period correctly, and I'm not sure people do it at all well. Just make sure you always make the addon.

[Ironside]

does the fact your approaching bubble mean anything after all its 11 buy ins for a min cash

i have pure bubbled and a few close to bubbles this weak in cold decks

In the 3x turbos the stack sizes change really fast and I'm not sure you can pass up an opportunity to make a bunch of chips before the bubble really starts. I'd pretty much ignore it until it really begins to come into effect. Tightening up too early will lead to both itm% decreasing and a lower roi overall. This is slightly different too a standard tournament where tightening up too early might mean you limp into the money a lot more, but have a lower roi. The rapidly changing blinds are fatal. Interestingly, I think a lot of the roi in these events (not in particular the o8 3x turbos but just 3x turbos) comes from playing the rebuy period correctly, and I'm not sure people do it at all well. Just make sure you always make the addon.

how do you play the rebuy period i have tried both playing like a rock and a river can see me making alot of rebuys or very little rebuys playing either style when every hand is all in pre after the first 30 minutes its impossible to play subtly