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Question: Would you rather your team played like Chelsea or Liverpool?  (Voting closed: May 06, 2014, 12:47:06 PM)
Play ugly - but win trophies - 41 (89.1%)
Play great football - but win nothing - 5 (10.9%)
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2014, 05:00:01 PM »

If you really love football this isn't boring. It's beautiful. Really really great manager who sets his teams up perfectly its literally like watching art for me. His inter Milan performance against Barcelona is THE best performance I have ever seen from a team in my life.

What a manager!

This. He was the only manager who could stop that team.
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2014, 05:32:49 PM »

As a Newcastle fan I'd like to put Pleno in charge and have both.

But seriously, Jose will be remembered as one of the all time greatest so I don't think people are really making much of a choice between say 'Rodgers style' and 'Jose style'
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2014, 06:12:03 PM »

Jose is undoubtedly a master-tactician but I wouldn't want him to manage my team as I cannot abide some of his classless antics which I already find cringeworthy in opposition. He's not someone I'd like as a dinner companion.

Ideally I'd like my team to play good football and win the odd trophy rather than negative football and win loads, but having the alternative of good footie conditional on no trophies at all seems a bit of an unfair choice.

Option "c" for me.
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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2014, 07:53:10 PM »

When it comes to YOUR team, it really is all about winning. Style only really comes into play if you don't meet media/fan/board (delete as applicable) expectations, which in alot of cases are totally unrealistic. Managers like Allardyce and Pulis come to mind, they have undoubtley had successful managerial careers but when they couldn't meet expectations after they had taking a club close to its threshold, how the team plays became an issue. There are plenty of clubs who will take them as they will produce results more often than not.

I am Jose fan, while he is undoubtedly massively arrogant he has certain charm about him imo. As well as being one of the best managers in the game, his tactical preperation for games is brilliant.

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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2014, 07:55:00 PM »

I see that four Arsenal fans have voted
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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2014, 09:41:22 PM »

as a lpool fan, when hodgson was manager the football was truly dire.

try waking up at 4 am and snorting a big line of mogadon.

istanbul was amazing , special times for supporters, but in general liverpool under rafa were not exactly thrilling.

ok , it was mostly shite.

this season under brendan has been a thrill pretty much week in week out. football on crack most weeks.

if we finish second i will be gutted but so be it.

more of the same next season please.

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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2014, 09:48:05 PM »

Didn't Mourinho's first Chelsea team have the record for scoring the most goals in a season before Ancelotti's Chelsea beat said record ?

Why would anyone not want a manager who builds a team to regularly beat inferior sides 4/5/6-0 then when they play teams close to there level or better than them he tactically gets it spot on an insanely high % of the time ?

The man's a football genius.

I do not agree at all. (Usually do tho! Smiley)

You can be a defensive football genius. Many coaches have been.

Putting 9 men behind the ball narrow is not genius at all.
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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2014, 09:50:32 PM »

If you really love football this isn't boring. It's beautiful. Really really great manager who sets his teams up perfectly its literally like watching art for me. His inter Milan performance against Barcelona is THE best performance I have ever seen from a team in my life.

What a manager!

You've never seen AC Milan's great, great sides then. True genius.
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2014, 10:18:10 PM »

juventus 0 liverpool 0 2005.

exception made for truly epic parking of bus.
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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2014, 10:28:21 PM »

I'm pretty stunned at the results to be honest.

Maybe 30 years ago I would have thought differently, when QPR had a realistic chance (albeit very unlikely) of winning the top division if everything fell right.

Now when the best I can hope for is a mid table Premier League finish I would absolutely rather watch players like Bowles, Stainrod, Byrne, Taarabt, Sir Les, Marsh, Wegerle and Morrison who lose more than they win than win at all costs.

I don't really care if QPR go up or down any more. I prefer them to win, but it doesn't upset me like it used to when they lose.

I get much of my enjoyment laughing at supporters of the big teams who expect to win every match and moan like hell when they don't.

Football has lost a lot in recent years. It's so boring that only 2 or 3 teams can win the Premier League.

This season has been brilliant purely because of Liverpool and Rodgers approach to football. It's been amazing to watch.

Give me a team that has me on the edge of my seat, scoring wonderful goals and creating beautiful moves over a team who sets out to park two buses and maybe nick a goal on the break.

Maybe I framed the question wrong.

What if it's a choice of being Stoke under Pulis/West Ham under Allardyce and the current Southampton team.

You have a 2% chance going down with the first two or a 20% chance of getting relegated as a Saints fan.

I struggle to understand anyone who answers Stoke or West Ham.

What is the point of supporting a boring team whose ceiling of ambition is coming 12th in the Premier League.

That is the definition of boredom in my eyes, I simply would stop going if I supported either team.
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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2014, 10:33:23 PM »

That's a very different question. Southampton obviously the answer to that one, but ask a true Saints fan to answer your original question and 'win ugly' will be a very short-priced favourite.
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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2014, 10:35:08 PM »

If you ask the question like that Keith, you probably would get different answers.


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« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2014, 10:39:46 PM »

If I was Abramovich I'd be deeply depressed to have laundered spent all those billions to be presented with a team who are so negative in the most important games.

At least the sheiks have creative and exciting players (Dzeko aside) at Citeh.
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« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2014, 10:42:43 PM »

derail but why does everybody use the acronym "citeh" ?

 i find it totally bisarre.
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« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2014, 10:46:03 PM »

derail but why does everybody use the acronym "citeh" ?

 i find it totally bisarre.


Because there's lots of teams called "City" and "Citeh" identifies them easily?
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