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Sulphur man
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250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 03:43:33 PM »
Maria Demetriou opens to 125,000 UTG from 1.5m at 30/60k 24 players left.
two callers, including Hero with K-10 playing 4m in the small blind
7-K-K is checked round
5 turn
Hero 250,000
Maria 700,000 raise
fold from the button
Hero allin
CALL
river 5
Hero views Villain as a competent thinking player, obviously have her on
a decent range with the utg open. By the turn have pinned her as possibly having AA.
Hero has not been seated on Villians table long and although Villain is aware of who hero is
at this point she would not be aware of exact style. Most likely views Hero as any lad under a certain age.
So probably viewed as good thinking player who is capable of any trickiness a hand may require.
One previous hand that might have swayed Villians thinking in this hand where she flatted Hero's raise pre
along with Leo in the BB Hero leads 8 high flop and Maria shoved. Hero dwelt and folded and was led to believe
he folded the best hand.
So Villain may have been cautious of being c/r in this hand.
Would love to hear fellow Blondes views on this.
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zerofive
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Re: 250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 03:59:22 PM »
How many paid? Rough payouts?
Quote from: Sulphur man on May 24, 2014, 03:43:33 PM
Hero views Villain as a competent thinking player
Hero has already made a catastrophic mistake
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Sulphur man
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Re: 250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 04:06:12 PM »
Quote from: zerofive on May 24, 2014, 03:59:22 PM
How many paid? Rough payouts?
Quote from: Sulphur man on May 24, 2014, 03:43:33 PM
Hero views Villain as a competent thinking player
Hero has already made a catastrophic mistake
Over 100 runners paid so in the monies.
1 £23,000
2 £13,650
3 £9,000
4 £6,000
5 £4,500
6 £3,600
7 £2,900
8 £2,300
9 £1,800
10 £1,400
11 £1,400
12 £1,400
13 £1,400
14 £1,200
15 £1,200
16 £1,200
17 £1,200
18 £1,200
Still quite bowlish pay jumps for some time.
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George2Loose
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Re: 250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 04:10:29 PM »
Fold pre
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Sulphur man
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Re: 250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 04:13:03 PM »
Quote from: George2Loose on May 24, 2014, 04:10:29 PM
Fold pre
Please expand. Fully agree btw.
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George2Loose
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Re: 250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 04:17:16 PM »
Just not deep enough to make this call profitable- Maria's range utg this deep has us crushed. We flop 3 of a kind and are still in a shitty spot on the turn. Playing the hand OOP is gonna be tough.
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Re: 250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 04:30:31 PM »
Fold pre
Turn is close between a call and a fold. Maria is well aware that you can have Kx here when she raises. Jamming is by far the worst option, you're never getting called by worse. I can't imagine villain raising AA here ever, she's well aware that you have Kx in your range.
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Sulphur man
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Re: 250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 04:55:21 PM »
Quote from: DMorgan on May 24, 2014, 04:30:31 PM
Fold pre
Turn is close between a call and a fold. Maria is well aware that you can have Kx here when she raises. Jamming is by far the worst option, you're never getting called by worse. I can't imagine villain raising AA here ever, she's well aware that you have Kx in your range.
Agreed. Hero in this case is not myself. Thought the hand was interesting though and while it's clearly
a fold pre I think personally it is a cooler from the flop onwards. Interesting that you fold as I think we are quite disguised
could be horribly wrong though.
With the previous hand I added to the history I don't believe Maria is folding the flop even if we bomb. So it's kind of
in the cooler territory from that standpoint as she would have been expecting a c/r on the flop and is never folding the turn.
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Re: 250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 05:01:18 PM »
Hero in this case was confident the Villain had missed flop from his observations at the table (reads).
so this makes a fold on the turn all the more difficult. We did talk the hand through and this was pointed out.
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Re: 250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 05:12:41 PM »
I wouldn't fold in game but its a fold if villain is only raising value hands. It doesn't take much to make it a really clear call, ie if villain is ever raising turn to 'find out where they are' or w/e with a hand like 99-AA then we call, but for me thats going to be an exploitative adjustment. It just doesn't look like a spot where villain is going to get out of line since your range is pretty much uncapped and theres a player behind too. I don't think that hero's hand is disguised in the slightest, I'd expect hero to play Kx this way (checking flop, leading turn when it checks around) pretty much always.
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Re: 250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 05:15:49 PM »
Quote from: Sulphur man on May 24, 2014, 03:43:33 PM
One previous hand that might have swayed Villians thinking in this hand where she flatted Hero's raise pre
along with Leo in the BB Hero leads 8 high flop and Maria shoved. Hero dwelt and folded and was led to believe
he folded the best hand.
So Villain may have been cautious of being c/r in this hand.
I think you've got your villains and heroes mixed up here? So in the previous hand, Hero in the OP opens and cbets an 8 high board vs two peelers in the blinds and gets jammed on by Villain in OP. Is Hero in OP worried about getting revenge c/raised?
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Re: 250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 05:21:49 PM »
3bet pre to 340,000 imo
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Sulphur man
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Re: 250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 05:34:37 PM »
Quote from: DMorgan on May 24, 2014, 05:15:49 PM
Quote from: Sulphur man on May 24, 2014, 03:43:33 PM
One previous hand that might have swayed Villians thinking in this hand where she flatted Hero's raise pre
along with Leo in the BB Hero leads 8 high flop and Maria shoved. Hero dwelt and folded and was led to believe
he folded the best hand.
So Villain may have been cautious of being c/r in this hand.
I think you've got your villains and heroes mixed up here? So in the previous hand, Hero in the OP opens and cbets an 8 high board vs two peelers in the blinds and gets jammed on by Villain in OP. Is Hero in OP worried about getting revenge c/raised?
Not so clear I know. Think Maria would have been concerned about getting c/r in the main hand. Think Maria is expecting
a c/r revenge as you put it.
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Re: 250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 05:37:12 PM »
Quote from: pleno1 on May 24, 2014, 05:21:49 PM
3bet pre to 340,000 imo
Made this point also which is fair. Prefer this to flatting. Top of Maria's range will
surely reraise and we can then let go. Good to see different views thanks Pleno.
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Re: 250 Deepstack.
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May 24, 2014, 07:32:20 PM »
Maria - 55
Her hand, not her age
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