omania hi/lo $16

[willrobrobu]

PokerStars Hand #117590925737: Tournament #924335717, $15.00+$1.50 USD Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level VII (50/100) - 2014/06/16 12:14:10 WET [2014/06/16 7:14:10 ET]
Table '924335717 12' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: liebanon (9440 in chips)
Seat 2: Maxim Ryzhko (6656 in chips)
Seat 3: willrobrobu (11358 in chips)
Seat 4: pimmo88 (3731 in chips)
Seat 5: Herefordut7 (3283 in chips)
Seat 6: bahmanbabare (3000 in chips)
Seat 7: All-In-Marek (3050 in chips)
Seat 8: tretbootlion (9725 in chips)
Seat 9: VamosPS (2410 in chips)
Maxim Ryzhko: posts small blind 50
willrobrobu: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to willrobrobu [ ]
pimmo88: calls 100
Herefordut7: folds
bahmanbabare: folds
All-In-Marek: folds
tretbootlion: calls 100
VamosPS: raises 200 to 300
liebanon: raises 950 to 1250
Maxim Ryzhko: folds
willrobrobu:

should i be folding here given stacks and that no one else seems to be able to fold preflop?

[Doobs]

Think you have to fold with stack sizes as they are.  Looks an ICM disaster to get it in here.   Presumably we are top 5 or similar.  I recognise the big stack villain but can't tell you anything about him.  You got any stats?

Your hand is so pretty, and I'd be going for it with shorter stacks.

[willrobrobu]

no HUD (imac) and didnt have a feel for this particular guy. table in gerneal has been shocking but think this guy has been off my radar enough to have a good holding here.

i have only a basic understanding of this game and my game is postflop cf pre.

in general (forgetting the shortie to act) can u peel shallower in hi/lo compared with plo/holdem with a hand that flops as well as this?

[willrobrobu]

bump. I did 4b here and did get away with it (3bettor folded pre), but am inclined to agree w doobs I should have just folded  pre myself .

[Doobs]

bump. I did 4b here and did get away with it (3bettor folded pre), but am inclined to agree w doobs I should have just folded  pre myself .

I definitely never fold it in a NLO8 Hyper and would go with it in level 1.  I would probably just go for it too if we all had 2500. 

Surprised Adam hasn't posted.

in general (forgetting the shortie to act) can u peel shallower in hi/lo compared with plo/holdem with a hand that flops as well as this?

I think the advantage of a shorte is sometimes that you can shove and engineer situations where you create really good pot odds for your self.  Say if you get 5 limpers and are sat with 5 big blinds in the BB then there is a lot of hands I'd just go with.  I am not sure I am in the majority here as people do tend to peel a lot even when shallow.  People tend to do this near the bubble too, but you get in a World of hurt if somebody pots it after.  Limp folding from a short stack is obviously disastrous.

I don't know if you noticed, but Stars have done away with the $50 plo8 that was on about 7.30.  It is now NLO8.  I was just on a really good run in it too.  Even though I play an awful  lot of NLO8 hypers, this is really bad news.  The $100 8 o'clock game already seemed to be struggling even before this, where as the $50 seemed fine.  Now we could lose them both.    Slow paced NLO8 just seems such a crap game.  limp limp, shove 100BBs.  meh.

[rfgqqabc]

What comp is it? Folding in Omania but getting it in in the 16.5 2x chance