nobody bluffs 530 rivers

[pleno1]

wug?


PokerStars Hand #118425411799: Tournament #926547043, $500+$30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (60/120) - 2014/07/06 23:05:54 CET [2014/07/06 17:05:54 ET]
Table '926547043 12' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: easylimp (8664 in chips)
Seat 2: pads1161 (9947 in chips)
Seat 3: I'am_Sound (11939 in chips)
Seat 4: papan9_p$ (11342 in chips)
Seat 5: pappadogg (10254 in chips)
Seat 6: marko 2701 (12642 in chips)
Seat 7: Gambler4444 (6104 in chips)
Seat 8: Halfyear9 (11154 in chips)
Seat 9: Sick´nSocial (8060 in chips)
Sick´nSocial: posts small blind 60
easylimp: posts big blind 120
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [ ]
pads1161: raises 120 to 240
I'am_Sound: folds
papan9_p$: folds
pappadogg: folds
marko 2701: raises 480 to 720
Gambler4444: folds
Halfyear9: folds
Sick´nSocial: folds
easylimp: folds
pads1161: calls 480
*** FLOP *** [ ]
pads1161: checks
marko 2701: bets 874
pads1161: calls 874
*** TURN *** [ ] []
pads1161: checks
marko 2701: bets 1997
pads1161: calls 1997
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
pads1161: bets 6356 and is all-in
marko 2701: folds
Uncalled bet (6356) returned to pads1161
marko 2701 said, "lol tnx"
pads1161 collected 7362 from pot
pads1161: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7362 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: easylimp (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: pads1161 collected (7362)
Seat 3: I'am_Sound folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: papan9_p$ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: pappadogg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: marko 2701 folded on the River
Seat 7: Gambler4444 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Halfyear9 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Sick´nSocial (small blind) folded before Flop

[muckthenuts]

Guessing no history or dynamic which is a good thing. I've been looking a little while and i can't see many hands he can really call with, so i think it works great as a bluff vs AA/AK and other stuff. We have the blocker to KK and KQ, though the latter is hardly loving life either because we can have just about anything here.

[SuuPRlim]

God IDK how old I've gotten but I swear I used to be able to play this game...

[willrobrobu]

looks like a good play not that I would ever do it! he might even fold TT here. AK  or AA most likely given his comment though

[Junior Senior]

Gets him off AK i suppose and AA and maybe TT. So you are saying we fold out his entire 3bet range except AJ and KK. 
I dunno, it seems a bit too creative for the games. I play but in the 530 you find people will fold more

[muckthenuts]

Villain unlikely to have TT too given preflop action.

[Doobs]

God IDK how old I've gotten but I swear I used to be able to play this game...

Haha thinking the same.  2 pair fold, 1 pair shove.  Never much cared for chicks with dicks either. 

[AlexMartin]

Villain unlikely to have TT too given preflop action.

doubt TT should be discounted esp v a min and probably i imagine pads is much wider than normal.

Its an interesting hand, not entirely sure how we would ever take this line for value or ever have the nuts or anywhere near it especially given his turn sizing.

 So he has the 1 KK set combo, call it 1.5 TT as most villains are gonna flat at least some %. QQ should checkback turn a lot especially as most villains will realise they are only getting true value from straight draws on the turn, we can give him .5 of a combo for arguments sake.

So otr we can probably foldout the 6 combos of AA, the other 6 combos of AK and get called by the 3 sets combos and the 12 AJ combos. Obviously we also foldout all the bluffs and dont get gauranteed folds from ak or AA. The chances of him playing all AJ's this way is also unlikely.

Im gonna go with folding out 8 combos of better hands, getting called by 9 and never being bluffed. Im not a fan of this one pads, what was your reasoning.

[WotRTheChances]

Thoughts on folding to the 3bet pre?

I swear it wasn't that long ago you were toying with open folding AKo UTG pre antes....

[pleno1]

Thoughts on folding to the 3bet pre?

I swear it wasn't that long ago you were toying with open folding AKo UTG pre antes....

That was 300+ deep and I still think is correct.

A hand with 80bbs is way different.

[pleno1]

Thoughts on folding to the 3bet pre?

I swear it wasn't that long ago you were toying with open folding AKo UTG pre antes....

That was 300+ deep and I still think is correct.

A hand with 80bbs is way different.

[SuuPRlim]

what is our hand supposed to be? AJ? KK? QQ? I just dont understand!