Injun giving

[kinboshi]

Think the friend also is looking forward to a bit of a sweat with his 'generosity'. 

[Simon Galloway]

Play it, but you have to raise if you have a red 4 or a black 7 in your hand.  Meanwhile, see if you can can quoff £75 of Merlot while u wait.

[GreekStein]

Joking aside Glenn I think this is a real borderline case. Your mate wants to do something nice but can't quite commit to a full, no strings job, while you on the other hand don't want to be forced to give away half the prize pool of a relatively small comp.

If it were a bigger comp, says £500 or something it would be a different matter, but as it is I think your best option is to politely refuse.

So are we saying a "thanks" from a mate has to be a worth while thanks to be accepted!?

Extreme example, if i read the situ correctly, you chuck in 20p into a homeless person bowl and he rolls his eyes and tuts- you'd could feel abit offended that he didnt accept it graciously!?

The actual comparison would be chucking 20p in a bowl for a homeless person but saying "oh by the way, if you decide to buy a sandwich with it I want half of it".

The friend might think he's doing a favour but he really isn't. Glen can afford to play this comp himself so what the friend is doing is actually giving him £75 (very generous not to be sniffed at) and staking him for £75 (pretty shit when you really don't want to be staked.

Politely refuse would be my opinion saying that you don't like to play with other people's money.

If he really wants to treat you then a night out with a £150 budget between you would be far more appropriate.

Whilst I basically agree with everything else in your post, the analogy is wrong.

[arbboy]

My opinion fwiw.

I would ask myself three questions.

Firstly, was i expecting any 'thank you' for what i have done for my friend to offer me this gift

Secondly, will the friend expect anything other than the 50% return in the future.  ie give you any grief etc if you don't cash/play badly etc

Finally , were you intending to play the comp anyway?

If the answer to the first two questions is no and the final question is yes then surely its a no brainer to accept his very kind offer (assuming its £150 + £15 = £165) of £82.50 which effectively this is a gift of.  This obviously assumes you are an average player in the field.  I don't know which comp this is so i can't comment on this.

If you were not intending on playing this comp and you will incur additional exs/hassle travelling to it then its a totally different matter imo and i think you are totally within your rights to decline.

Something similar to this happened to me at Stoke a while ago.  I gave a reg in the casino a few pieces of punting info with nothing attached as i liked the guy to have a drink with during the local reg cash game.  He landed a couple of decent touches with them and offered me a simialr deal of putting me into the monthly £150 and going 50/50 on any returns.  I snapped his hand off.

[Marky147]

I still think this is a wind up

[tikay]

I still think this is a wind up

Yeah, It's probably the other way round, and was Glenn's way of thanking Chompy for giving him yet another winner.

[Simon Galloway]

I still think this is a wind up

Yeah, It's probably the other way round, and was Glenn's way of thanking Chompy for giving him yet another winner.

But that would also be equally pointless to get bogged down on payout terms.

[nirvana]

Thanks for all the responses - I think Matt nails it closest and if this guy ever went out socially I'd go that route for sure.

Arbboy - you make some good points, yes I would have played and no, I certainly did not expect anything. This guy is very driven and slightly on the tight side. I have shared a table with you in the distant past and of course, I agree you should snap take the stake in similar circumstances.


Kin has lightened the tone nicely with his mention of a 'sweat' from this misguided adventure.

Tomorrow is the day 1, think I'll just leave it and see what transpires - I think these things are always easier to sort out after the event.

[MANTIS01]

It should be 70/30 in the backer's favour rather than 50/50. I mean the fact he's offering a player of your capabilities half of any cash for a full buy-in is very nice and very generous. Sure, the field is prob 'soft', but still, I don't think anybody can justify that kind of mark-up.

[Junior Senior]

My Dad paid me into a £300 comp once years and years ago for a birthday present. I would have played the comp anyway but having it paid for as a gift did take the pressure off the bankroll a bit. I was really looking forward to it and I had already made my mind up that had i won i would have booked a nice weekend away for him and my Mum or something along those lines.  In the bar beforehand he suddenly declares that he wants 50% of whatever i win. I was immediately taken aback and didnt know what to say. Being ten minutes before the comp, him being my Dad etc etc, I obviously just went along with it but it massively took the shine off the gesture.. I told him that too. It actually affected my game on reflection.

As someone said earlier gifts simply do not come with conditions, freerolls or expectations of reciprocation.

[Chompy]

To funny

[nirvana]

To funny

Exo, a great montage.

Anyway, for any remaining readers. I tried to engage with the man who gave me the 'present' yesterday. I repeatedly told him that I was capping his share at £1,000 as I think this is the fairest way out but he wasn't having it - how I laughed when he bust.

Anyway, obv back for Day 2 after smashing into Aces and Queens with KQ and crushing them both on the flop.. tbf it's the only hand I played fearlessly so a well deserved outcome.

Have to decide later whether to throw the game and avoid a cash or if we luckbox our way to a final, work out an undisclosed chop so the cap isn't reached. One way or another I'm gonna stick to my guns on this and if the grim is the only club in the bag then it will be swung.

[RED-DOG]

To funny

Exo, a great montage.

Anyway, for any remaining readers. I tried to engage with the man who gave me the 'present' yesterday. I repeatedly told him that I was capping his share at £1,000 as I think this is the fairest way out but he wasn't having it - how I laughed when he bust.

Anyway, obv back for Day 2 after smashing into Aces and Queens with KQ and crushing them both on the flop.. tbf it's the only hand I played fearlessly so a well deserved outcome.

Have to decide later whether to throw the game and avoid a cash or if we luckbox our way to a final, work out an undisclosed chop so the cap isn't reached. One way or another I'm gonna stick to my guns on this and if the grim is the only club in the bag then it will be swung.

When it comes to great prose, blonde has an embarrassment of riches.

[tikay]

To funny

Exo, a great montage.

Anyway, for any remaining readers. I tried to engage with the man who gave me the 'present' yesterday. I repeatedly told him that I was capping his share at £1,000 as I think this is the fairest way out but he wasn't having it - how I laughed when he bust.

Anyway, obv back for Day 2 after smashing into Aces and Queens with KQ and crushing them both on the flop.. tbf it's the only hand I played fearlessly so a well deserved outcome.

Have to decide later whether to throw the game and avoid a cash or if we luckbox our way to a final, work out an undisclosed chop so the cap isn't reached. One way or another I'm gonna stick to my guns on this and if the grim is the only club in the bag then it will be swung.

Old people write so well.

[GreekStein]

To funny

Exo, a great montage.

Anyway, for any remaining readers. I tried to engage with the man who gave me the 'present' yesterday. I repeatedly told him that I was capping his share at £1,000 as I think this is the fairest way out but he wasn't having it - how I laughed when he bust.

Anyway, obv back for Day 2 after smashing into Aces and Queens with KQ and crushing them both on the flop.. tbf it's the only hand I played fearlessly so a well deserved outcome.

Have to decide later whether to throw the game and avoid a cash or if we luckbox our way to a final, work out an undisclosed chop so the cap isn't reached. One way or another I'm gonna stick to my guns on this and if the grim is the only club in the bag then it will be swung.

Old people write so well.

Yes. Yes we do.