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« Reply #90 on: August 17, 2014, 08:52:34 PM »

Busto in the most awful spot. Ska lie raises utg button flats some ginger nerd Jackson stakes flats cove flats I shove 35 bigs with kk skalie folds kid snaps with aq for virtually his life with cove still to act behind and rivers an ace. I need to find a more skilful hobby to waste a weeks time with I think and all your money. Monster Chip leader with 15 left if we hold. I actually can't tell you how disillusioned I am with this so called skill game over the past few months and this just pretty much sums it up.
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« Reply #91 on: August 17, 2014, 09:36:59 PM »

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=173501

This is the hero in question.  Given this would easily have been his biggest cash of his life just to min cash it makes the snap call  for virtually his stack all the more baffling.  Maybe he was keen to show his boss what a hero/run good luck box he is.
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« Reply #92 on: August 17, 2014, 09:44:59 PM »

Will sort out refunds tomorrow etc once i have a clearer head.  Sorry for sounding so negative but i have put in an 90 hour shift in the last 9 days at dtd for fuck all.  Time for a new hobby. 

TY for the support.  Appreciate it.
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« Reply #93 on: August 17, 2014, 09:50:31 PM »

Don't hate the player....
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« Reply #94 on: August 17, 2014, 10:49:54 PM »

why?  You think he makes the same call if he is playing with his own pocket money rather than a freeroll because of the overlay from his staker?  If you spent the last 3 years constantly getting 3 outered deep in big buy in comps close to the money by clueless mugs like this kid it would start getting to you as well in a game that's sold to everyone as a skill game.
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« Reply #95 on: August 17, 2014, 11:54:05 PM »

I have no comment on the free roll aspect of things because I'm not sure what you're referring too but there is a hell of a lot of variance in poker and shit like this happens to everyone. I also don't thing he expects u to turn up with just aces kings or queens here very often so it's not the worst call in the world (I assume u want it to look like a squeeze which is why u jam)
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« Reply #96 on: August 17, 2014, 11:57:52 PM »

And finally

http://pokerstarsprotege.maidocloud.com/pro/pro_1
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« Reply #97 on: August 18, 2014, 12:12:09 AM »

yeh kinda ool imo.
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #98 on: August 18, 2014, 12:22:06 AM »

this is a bad beat

www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR52zv1GqBY

what was yours 70 30 ?
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« Reply #99 on: August 18, 2014, 12:25:10 AM »

I have no comment on the free roll aspect of things because I'm not sure what you're referring too but there is a hell of a lot of variance in poker and shit like this happens to everyone. I also don't thing he expects u to turn up with just aces kings or queens here very often so it's not the worst call in the world (I assume u want it to look like a squeeze which is why u jam)

Freeroll aspect means if he had to raid his piggy bank for the monkey to play and/or win via a sat through his own cash and efforts he is never calling in this spot in a million years given the icm situation and the fact it's clearly a huge amount of money to him.

This is where levels on levels and all this poker speak gets a bit carried away and people forget it's a pretty simple gambling game with two cards.  He is a 45% dog to every hand i shove in that spot at absolute best.  No one in their right mind in a £500 donkfest that soft with above average chips is ever going to shove into 3 people (including utg raiser) with worse than aq in that spot.  he is a 10% dog against AA, 28% dog v kk/qq or ak and a 42.5% dog v 1010 or jj and a 45% dog against any other pair which is shoving below 1010.  He chops if i have AQ.  I keep things really simple and see them from a betting/odds point of view.  He chooses to get his money in last in this spot (obviously only one way to win when he had every chance to show aggression himself and take down the pot with no showdown in position) and is a dog to every possible hand he is likely to see.  This is before the fact he has comfortably above average in chips and can find a much better use for his stack icm wise.

When you say it's not the worse call in the world i am starting to wonder if i am going mad!

What person playing for easily the biggest cash of their life would choose to play AQ in this manner seriously?  
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« Reply #100 on: August 18, 2014, 12:30:08 AM »

Please don't think I'm trolling. Also I have no idea who villain is so I'm not defending him.

If u expect AQ to fold what are u looking to get called by?
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« Reply #101 on: August 18, 2014, 12:37:10 AM »

Unlucky son, poker is a **** of a game...

Lay off the gingers though... I'll be in that bracket if I don't shave for another couple days!
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« Reply #102 on: August 18, 2014, 12:41:01 AM »

i don't think you are trolling at all.  I appreciate your comments given the Blatch history etc in the past as you could easily have just read and not commented.  I have calmed down now slightly but i just think poker has become such a level on level war that just by playing ABC solid poker in these donkfests you have such an edge which is why i am so fucked off i keep doing my cash in these spots.  

I am a winner.  I am used to winning at everything i have ever done in my life mainly through hard work and preparation (school/university/sports/gambling even women to a certain extent).  I am a terrible loser so maybe poker is not for me.  I am a big believer in show me a good loser and i will show you a loser.  I get variance i gamble for a living ffs i have swings daily/weekly/monthly etc etc i have for years with no other form of income.  I also get mtt sample sizes etc etc and how small they are live.  But i just can't get my head round how fucking bad i run deep in big mtt's when there is serious cash on the line.

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« Reply #103 on: August 18, 2014, 12:46:32 AM »

Please don't think I'm trolling. Also I have no idea who villain is so I'm not defending him.

If u expect AQ to fold what are u looking to get called by?

In reply to this i would expect to get that shove through virtually every time and be quite happy to pick up over 35% of my stack without show down.  Obviously AA/kk and probably qq/ak will call.

To flip the question back to you how wide do i have to be shoving there for AQ off to be a profitable call just pot odds wise without even factoring in the damage to your stack from the ICM implications.  I just can't imagine how you can ever think aq is good in that spot for a call 4 from the money when you are above average chips and for such a big % of ur stack.  There was no thought process in the slightest he literally snap called as well once Skalie folded like he was setting a trap (i instantly said 'i must have run into AA as usual' then as Cove folded he just rolled over aq like it was the nuts)  I would happily bet 1/9 (effectively 90% of the time) that aq is always crushed in that spot ie (1010-AA and ak).  I class 1010 and jj as crushing aq off because you are a 57.5% fav.  I have never understood why people call it a flip.
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« Reply #104 on: August 18, 2014, 12:47:56 AM »

No problem that's all water under the bridge.

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