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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2014, 01:33:23 PM » |
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I'd bet flop bigger unless it was to induce vs this guy, otherwise sure i'd do the same as you.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2014, 01:56:27 PM » |
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I may snap click it pre here hoping he can 4b light so I can keep clicking, would be nice haha
Love the flop sizing vs someone who's played basically every hand, he's rarely folding any trash he has.
it's tricky to understand why he is betting so huge on the turn, what's the bottom of your shoving range vs this?
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2014, 03:04:41 PM » |
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Maybe a better question would be, do you think this turn bet could ever be a bluff? would you think villain can go this big with less than TPTK?
Interesting spot if anyone can give a good reason to fold ott, idk if folding even looks remotely possible in game.
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2014, 04:56:58 PM » |
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Looks fine, probs bet a bit bigger on flop vs this guy, maybe 3b flop as well.
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2014, 07:21:08 PM » |
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Looks fine, probs bet a bit bigger on flop vs this guy, maybe 3b flop as well.
agree with betting flop bigger but dont like 3b flop. Villain doesn't seem to have any bluffs in his range with these bet sizing. So you have to decide if villain is betting worse for value? If your on form and in the zone think you can fold the turn but its difficult. |
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2014, 11:27:20 PM » |
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Looks fine, probs bet a bit bigger on flop vs this guy, maybe 3b flop as well.
agree with betting flop bigger but dont like 3b flop. Villain doesn't seem to have any bluffs in his range with these bet sizing. So you have to decide if villain is betting worse for value? If your on form and in the zone think you can fold the turn but its difficult. 3b flop definitely has merit given we are out of position facing just a min raise from a guy who loves to call. Any reasoning behind your not liking it? Think folding turn vs described villain is out of the question and just results orientated. He can have plenty of worse hands he thinks are for value, could just be betting for lolz and plenty of draws too. |
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2014, 07:51:22 AM » |
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Villian has been described as playing a lot of hands pre flop but no description of post flop aggression so we can't assume he's loose aggressive. Most common fish type would be loose passive right? Reason I don't like 3b is it'd hard for villian to continue with worse.
I agree that folding the turn is difficult in fact if you folded you never tell anyone lol.The only reason you might do it is his bet sizes. Min raises flop and then nearly pots turn, just doesnt feel like a bluff line.
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2014, 10:25:32 AM » |
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Reason I don't like 3b is it'd hard for villian to continue with worse.
It really isn't hard for a random on .fr who has played 14/15 hands to continue with worse |
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2014, 11:07:31 AM » |
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That's a pre flop stat though. Not post flop. He might be the nittiest guy in the world post flop.
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2014, 11:16:51 AM » |
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That's a pre flop stat though. Not post flop. He might be the nittiest guy in the world post flop.
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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2014, 11:30:45 AM » |
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Therefore if it's an unknown, play as close to GTO as possible? Until we can exploit?
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2014, 11:45:22 AM » |
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However much spew I see from French randoms on .fr I agree with pathfinder in that the turn bet doesn't have a particularly high % of bluffs contained in it. I went with it because it's a lolz 4b pot sb vs button. Even though it's a particularly difficult fold I feel it's one I should be making due to the sizing. I was really annoyed with my self after the hand Thanks for the discussion  |
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2014, 01:15:18 PM » |
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Think folding turn vs described villain is out of the question and just results orientated. He can have plenty of worse hands he thinks are for value, could just be betting for lolz and plenty of draws too.
+1 A guy playing 14/15 hands is clearly there to enjoy the ride. He's going to have a very wide range in all spots and the only question should really be how we can get our stacks in with an overpair - imo it's a cooler if we're beat. |
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2014, 02:29:01 PM » |
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bigger pre,
if hes a crazy maniac then flop size is ok, if hes a passive fish then bet bigger. never folding ever at any point
all depends what kind of fish he is, as to whether 3 bet flop is good or not
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