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« on: October 04, 2014, 11:49:15 AM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29440451

Obviously this article is biased towards Assam.

But really? Is it worth all the energy and bile Hull supporters are putting into this campaign to keep Hull City's name unchanged?

It's not like he's doing a Wimbledon and moving the club away.

It's not like what Ridsdale did to Leeds or Storey did to Portsmouth.

Fans of these 3 clubs and plenty of others have legitimate reason to protest about the way their club has been mismanaged.

But what is in a name?

Arsenal were once Woolwich Arsenal.

Everyone still calls Leyton Orient their old name plain old "Orient".

And does anyone actually call AFC Bournemouth their proper name?

The official name is irrelevant. The club is called what the people call it. And everyone will keep on calling Hull City by that name.

And in 10 years time when a new owner is looking to curry favour with the fans he'll change their name back to Hull City and in 100 years time, this will be an amusing footnote in Hull City's history.

Seems to me Assam has done quite a lot for Hull and the city. The fans are just being ridiculous.
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2014, 11:53:15 AM »

Agreed

The fact he has spent millions not just on the club but the City should give him the benefit of any doubt

In the top five owners in the country
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2014, 12:19:02 PM »

Had more sympathy with the Cardiff fans when the team colours were changed, which i think is of signifcance to most fans

As in most of these cases, in modern football without a significant bankroller then teams are also-rans

where would Hull be without him? maybe a division lower, maybe two?

would that be a price worth paying for no change of name?

the fans need to look at the bigger picture
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2014, 01:22:40 PM »

What if queens park rovers became queens park tigers? Not being funny just genuinely interested how you'd feel.
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2014, 01:28:33 PM »

What if queens park rovers became queens park tigers? Not being funny just genuinely interested how you'd feel.

Auto-correct strikes again......
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2014, 01:30:48 PM »

What if queens park rovers became queens park tigers? Not being funny just genuinely interested how you'd feel.

If it was a choice between no team to support and changing our name, I would be "Come on you Tigers!"

Well, I wouldn't because the supporters would keep the QPR name alive.

We almost merged with Fulham in the 1980s. Now that would have been something worth getting het up about.
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2014, 01:34:56 PM »

I always found it amazing how much Newcastle fans kicked off about ST james being called the Sports direct arena?  I mean does that really matter in the bigger picture?  Every USA sports teams arena is sponsored and the names change all the team and no one could care less.  I just find UK football fans incredibly anal about stuff like this which doesn't matter at all compared to other sports/fans around the world.

As a stoke fan the Brit is only called that because the club sponsor was the local building society when it was built.  Once their contract runs out i assume the stadium will be called the bet365arena and i can't imagine any stoke fans caring less what it is named.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2014, 01:35:21 PM »

Had more sympathy with the Cardiff fans when the team colours were changed, which i think is of signifcance to most fans

As in most of these cases, in modern football without a significant bankroller then teams are also-rans

where would Hull be without him? maybe a division lower, maybe two?

would that be a price worth paying for no change of name?

the fans need to look at the bigger picture

Again, Cardiff were on the verge of going bust without Vincent Tan.

They will change back to blue the moment Tan leaves. It's just temporary.

Wimbledon will never get their club back. Leeds and Portsmouth are a shadow of the clubs they were 10 years ago. Maybe never to come back.

All have had their clubs irrevocably ruined.

Hull and Cardiff's changes are just for a couple of seasons.

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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2014, 01:38:25 PM »

What if queens park rovers became queens park tigers? Not being funny just genuinely interested how you'd feel.

If it was a choice between no team to support and changing our name, I would be "Come on you Tigers!"

Well, I wouldn't because the supporters would keep the QPR name alive.

We almost merged with Fulham in the 1980s. Now that would have been something worth getting het up about.

Earlier than that, mid seventies as I recall, Jim White nearly merged QPR with Brentford.

You got really unlucky there, think what might have been for QPR.
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2014, 01:45:26 PM »

What if queens park rovers became queens park tigers? Not being funny just genuinely interested how you'd feel.


It isn't the same, Hull City have been known as the Tigers for years.   It isn't like the red shirts for Cardiff either.  And Valley Parade is Valley Parade whatever it is called.  Sure people would still call them Hull City regardless of the name change.  All seems a bit silly to me.
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2014, 01:48:15 PM »

What if queens park rovers became queens park tigers? Not being funny just genuinely interested how you'd feel.

If it was a choice between no team to support and changing our name, I would be "Come on you Tigers!"

Well, I wouldn't because the supporters would keep the QPR name alive.

We almost merged with Fulham in the 1980s. Now that would have been something worth getting het up about.

Earlier than that, mid seventies as I recall, Jim White nearly merged QPR with Brentford.

You got really unlucky there, think what might have been for QPR.

They bloody wish there had been a merger in the "mid 70s"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975%E2%80%9376_Football_League#First_Division

1 point away from being champions of England in the middle of the 70s.

Bugger only knows where Brentford were languishing in the "mid 70s"
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2014, 01:52:41 PM »

What if queens park rovers became queens park tigers? Not being funny just genuinely interested how you'd feel.

If it was a choice between no team to support and changing our name, I would be "Come on you Tigers!"

Well, I wouldn't because the supporters would keep the QPR name alive.

We almost merged with Fulham in the 1980s. Now that would have been something worth getting het up about.

Earlier than that, mid seventies as I recall, Jim White nearly merged QPR with Brentford.

You got really unlucky there, think what might have been for QPR.

They bloody wish there had been a merger in the "mid 70s"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975%E2%80%9376_Football_League#First_Division

1 point away from being champions of England in the middle of the 70s.

Bugger only knows where Brentford were languishing in the "mid 70s"

We had a lot in injuries that season.

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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2014, 02:05:43 PM »

What if queens park rovers became queens park tigers? Not being funny just genuinely interested how you'd feel.

If it was a choice between no team to support and changing our name, I would be "Come on you Tigers!"

Well, I wouldn't because the supporters would keep the QPR name alive.

We almost merged with Fulham in the 1980s. Now that would have been something worth getting het up about.

Earlier than that, mid seventies as I recall, Jim White nearly merged QPR with Brentford.

You got really unlucky there, think what might have been for QPR.

They bloody wish there had been a merger in the "mid 70s"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975%E2%80%9376_Football_League#First_Division

1 point away from being champions of England in the middle of the 70s.

Bugger only knows where Brentford were languishing in the "mid 70s"

We had a lot in injuries that season.



After much research I found them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975%E2%80%9376_Football_League#Fourth_Division

18th in Division 3.

A mere 84 places below Queens Park Rangers.

Are you sure you aren't confusing "merger" with "takeover"?
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2014, 02:16:28 PM »

What if queens park rovers became queens park tigers? Not being funny just genuinely interested how you'd feel.

If it was a choice between no team to support and changing our name, I would be "Come on you Tigers!"

Well, I wouldn't because the supporters would keep the QPR name alive.

We almost merged with Fulham in the 1980s. Now that would have been something worth getting het up about.

Earlier than that, mid seventies as I recall, Jim White nearly merged QPR with Brentford.

You got really unlucky there, think what might have been for QPR.

They bloody wish there had been a merger in the "mid 70s"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975%E2%80%9376_Football_League#First_Division

1 point away from being champions of England in the middle of the 70s.

Bugger only knows where Brentford were languishing in the "mid 70s"

We had a lot in injuries that season.



After much research I found them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975%E2%80%9376_Football_League#Fourth_Division

18th in Division 3.

A mere 84 places below Queens Park Rangers.

Are you sure you aren't confusing "merger" with "takeover"?

No no, merger, takeover, just words. You wanted our superior ground. Fact.

Anyway, I had to meet research with research, & I discover that "mid 70's" was in fact 1967.

Quite amusing now to think  there used to be "West London Derby" games betwen Chelsea, Fulham, QPR & Brentford.

The golden triangle of football, or golden square if we generously include QPR.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_London_derby

There was a huge outcry at the time, with a "Save Brentford" campaign. I even purchased a square of the hallowed Griffin Park Turf for £1.


However, the bad feeling between the clubs runs deeper than locality. In 1967, QPR attempted a takeover of Brentford, which would have resulted in QPR moving into Griffin Park and Brentford F.C. ceasing to exist. The story infamously broke in the London press but Brentford supporters rallied to save their club. Since then, relations between the clubs have been frosty. The rivalry resumed in 2001 and continued for several seasons until Rangers were promoted. During this time, the rivalry was intensified by Brentford player Martin Rowlands leaving to join QPR. He then went on to kiss his badge on several occasions in front of the Brentford support when the two sides met in 2003 at Loftus Road.
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2014, 02:18:06 PM »

Why would Newcastle fans be ok with changing the name of the clubs ground when the club received nothing from the name change since Ashley pays the whole sum of 0 for advertising Sports Direct.
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