Ched Evans

[arbboy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30681333

Evans father-in-law to be is reported to have agreed to bankroll any club losses from sponsors walking away

the behaviour of Evans fiancee and her family is one of the oddest things about this complicated case, from the lady standing by her fella who, at the very very very least was unfaithful to her to her dad funding legal cases and now this

Just looks like a case of a blind loved up daddy's girl to me.

[Kmac84]

Keith if you were sentenced for "raping" someone and you were 100% sure you never done it would you be full of remorse?

There is no doubting Evans is an idiot but the guy deserves the chance to get back into the game and start earning a crust. 

He's done his sentence and like any other crim he needs to get back to normalisation. 

How can you be "100% sure", there isn't anything to be 100% sure about, you either know you did it or not.

So why does he deserve a chance? by the way and how is being a footballer on thousands of pounds a week "normalisation"?

Well he has admitted to having sex with the girl but his claim was it was consensual she is saying she wasn't in fit state of mind to make that call.  So he has to be 100% certain that it was consensual. 

Eh its normalisation for him you tool, he's getting back to what he would have done. 

You have a bested interest as a Wednesday fan, no?

[celtic]

Deal to Oldham is off apparently.

[RickBFA]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30681333

Evans father-in-law to be is reported to have agreed to bankroll any club losses from sponsors walking away

the behaviour of Evans fiancee and her family is one of the oddest things about this complicated case, from the lady standing by her fella who, at the very very very least was unfaithful to her to her dad funding legal cases and now this

Yep its really weird, apparently he's offer up to £2m to Oldham and then he's funding his legal campaign which wont be cheap.

If my daughter who is 21 was in that situation with some geezer, I don't think I'd be throwing money at helping him.

Each to their own though.

[exstream]

Should be able to make a living the best way he can, the same way other criminals do.

[TightEnd]

also, you have to be remarkably stupid to complain vehemently that Oldham might take on a convicted rapist by threatening to rape the chairman's daughter, as appears to have happened

many elements on both sides of this are enough to make you despair

[DMorgan]

also, you have to be remarkably stupid to complain vehemently that Oldham might take on a convicted rapist by threatening to rape the chairman's daughter, as appears to have happened

Yep, depressingly predictable

Although we're unlikely to ever hear the real reason through the media. The threats could have been the reason for pulling the plug on the deal but it could have been anything from the players refusing to play with him, coaching staff refusing to work with him, board members having an attack of conscience, sponsors walking away or any combination of those things.

If it was player or staff backlash then the ownership and the board aren't going to make themselves look weak by announcing that, they'll just say it was because of the threats or sponsors backing off.

[DungBeetle]

It seems that some members of the fair and even minded "anti-evans" group that we hear so much about decided that a contract looked like it was to be signed and started threatening to rape the family of Oldham's staff members.

[DungBeetle]

"If it was player or staff backlash then the ownership and the board aren't going to make themselves look weak by announcing that, they'll just say it was because of the threats or sponsors backing off."

Or maybe some of the people involved on the online Evans witch hunt really are just vermin, who knows?    Hartlepool, Tranmere and especially Sheff United all looked "weak" by caving into the demands of the online mob.

[ripple11]

also, you have to be remarkably stupid to complain vehemently that Oldham might take on a convicted rapist by threatening to rape the chairman's daughter, as appears to have happened

many elements on both sides of this are enough to make you despair

Sigh,this statement should have been made ages ago.......certainly not straight after a club pulls out of a deal.

[DMorgan]

"If it was player or staff backlash then the ownership and the board aren't going to make themselves look weak by announcing that, they'll just say it was because of the threats or sponsors backing off."

Or maybe some of the people involved on the online Evans witch hunt really are just vermin, who knows?    Hartlepool, Tranmere and especially Sheff United all looked "weak" by caving into the demands of the online mob.

What characteristics would you say makes the people that don't think that Evans should play professional football until his sentence is served a 'mob'? Where do you see the line between a group of people of the same opinion and a 'mob'? Ideally without reference to the tiny fraction of the anti-evans campaign that go around threatening to hurt people but unfortunately get a lot of media coverage.

On the topic of the clubs that have been open to signing discussions, would you agree that those with the most to gain financially from Evans scoring lots of goals for their club (owners and board members) would be the most likely to set aside any moral misgivings about signing him?

[tikay]

It seems that some members of the fair and even minded "anti-evans" group that we hear so much about decided that a contract looked like it was to be signed and started threatening to rape the family of Oldham's staff members.

[/b][/i]

Was this on Social-Media? If so, let us hope they all get prosecuted.

They don't mean it, of course, they are just dumbfucks saying dumb things for effect.

[arbboy]

"If it was player or staff backlash then the ownership and the board aren't going to make themselves look weak by announcing that, they'll just say it was because of the threats or sponsors backing off."

Or maybe some of the people involved on the online Evans witch hunt really are just vermin, who knows?    Hartlepool, Tranmere and especially Sheff United all looked "weak" by caving into the demands of the online mob.

What characteristics would you say makes the people that don't think that Evans should play professional football until his sentence is served a 'mob'? Where do you see the line between a group of people of the same opinion and a 'mob'? Ideally without reference to the tiny fraction of the anti-evans campaign that go around threatening to hurt people but unfortunately get a lot of media coverage.

On the topic of the clubs that have been open to signing discussions, would you agree that those with the most to gain financially from Evans scoring lots of goals for their club (owners and board members) would be the most likely to set aside any moral misgivings about signing him?

Why do these random people care so much?  I don't really get it.  If he applied for a sales job and made £1200 a week would they want the owners of the sales company's daughters raped for employing him?  He isn't a role model.  He is trying to play in the lower divisions on a semi normal wage. There is nothing remotely glamourous about playing lower division football for teams like Oldham.  They stay in premier inns and Village hotels when they travel on a normal bus to away games.  The vast majority of players have normal life worries like bills/mortgages etc etc.  Their career is over at 35 tops and most players at that level are pretty skint when they finish.  Virtually no one in any of these town's has a clue who their local striker is for their team.  Most footballers at this level can walk down the street of the town/city they play in and 99% of people haven't got a clue who they are.

 I really don't get what the big deal is.

[DungBeetle]

"What characteristics would you say makes the people that don't think that Evans should play professional football until his sentence is served a 'mob'? Where do you see the line between a group of people of the same opinion and a 'mob'? Ideally without reference to the tiny fraction of the anti-evans campaign that go around threatening to hurt people but unfortunately get a lot of media coverage."

I would give the characteristics of the mob as a group of people who think they are above the law of this land.  Evans has been in prison.  He is now on remand and criminals on remand are allowed to work in the UK.   The mob are not happy with this.  They will act to stop him gaining employment.  They will talk of "role models" even though a sizeable minority will never have even heard of Evans before his trial.  They will sign petitions.  They will lobby sponsors.  And failing that they would seem to take more extreme action if they don't get their way which you don't want me to mention.

In short, they are pathetic.  If they aren't happy with the way things work then lobby politicians.  Get the law changed to lock him up for longer or change remand conditions.  Stop revelling in self indulgent fury and let the guy get on with his life.

[DungBeetle]

"On the topic of the clubs that have been open to signing discussions, would you agree that those with the most to gain financially from Evans scoring lots of goals for their club (owners and board members) would be the most likely to set aside any moral misgivings about signing him?"
 
He's tainted goods so he will likely be condemned to playing below his level for the rest of his career.  His baggage has tilted the risk/reward equation for potential employers.  Not to mention the fact he hasn't kicked a ball for 3 years so who knows if he is even League 1 standard anymore.  You're not going to see a bigger club taking a chance on him any time soon.