Marky147
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« Reply #270 on: November 28, 2014, 12:27:57 AM » |
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Just winding you up
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arbboy
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« Reply #272 on: November 28, 2014, 12:46:01 AM » |
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I get what you were saying woodsey. It crossed my mind that she had binked 2 ept's, poker is getting really tough when you have other well paid jobs to deal with like she has and can't devote your whole life to improve. She is recently married etc etc. It would seem a great time to walk away and not have to deal with poker any more under a stars contract with the casino issue as a smokescreen to get out and win even more fan boys with her ethics.
Also she might have gone to Stars and said 'right i am first ever ept double winner and got great image outside of poker as well in well to do circles i want a massive increase on my current deal' etc etc.
I don't think either of these things have happened fwiw so don't flame me but it did cross my mind.
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doubleup
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« Reply #273 on: November 28, 2014, 10:55:52 AM » |
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I think you are underestimating the huge difference between promoting a company that makes its profits from providing a service to its customers and promoting a company that makes its money by directly using an edge against its customers.
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tikay
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« Reply #274 on: November 29, 2014, 11:08:31 AM » |
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All details of the 2016 Vegas Staking Adventure can be found via this link - http://bit.ly/1pdQZDY (copyright Anthony James Kendall, 2016).
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TightEnd
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« Reply #276 on: December 01, 2014, 03:35:08 PM » |
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kevmath has been tweeting some interesting stuff, h/t to him a profile by nathan vardi of Amaya's David Baazov, the "king of online poker" http://onforb.es/1vZmbsOand this stat...from the forbes article is quite telling "60% of [PokerStars'] revenue [in 2014] was being generated by players who registered at PokerStars between 2001 and 2010"
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My eyes are open wide By the way,I made it through the day I watch the world outside By the way, I'm leaving out today
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DaveShoelace
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« Reply #277 on: December 01, 2014, 03:47:33 PM » |
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"60% of [PokerStars'] revenue [in 2014] was being generated by players who registered at PokerStars between 2001 and 2010"
Not sure what I would have guessed at, but this surprises me, even though I know its the grinders that generate the most rake. Also goes against some other stuff I had heard about most of stars revenue being from mobile these days. Must admit, swings me (slightly) more towards the side of they might be making a mistake with all these changes, if that stat is accurate.
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Ironside
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« Reply #278 on: December 01, 2014, 03:51:39 PM » |
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So 40% of revenue is coming from new players who signed in last 4 years
Must be nice getting a good churn of new players
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doubleup
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« Reply #279 on: December 01, 2014, 04:03:09 PM » |
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So 40% of revenue is coming from new players who signed in last 4 years
Must be nice getting a good churn of new players
(I know it's not this simple) but the acquisition costs of the old players = zero and the acquisition cost of a new player > zero.
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arbboy
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« Reply #280 on: December 01, 2014, 04:15:04 PM » |
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So 40% of revenue is coming from new players who signed in last 4 years
Must be nice getting a good churn of new players
(I know it's not this simple) but the acquisition costs of the old players = zero and the acquisition cost of a new player > zero. Great read that article. Interesting how he said he was only really interested in the access to pokerstars 89m 'consumers'. The guy just sounds like a typical corporate finance asset stripper and I don't think the guy cares less about pokerstars as a product for poker. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the poker product doesn't exist at all in 5 or 10 years at a level where you can actually beat the game (everyone will be playing at excessive rake which cannot be beaten purely for recreational purposes) and he is just force feeding these poker consumers with casino/sportsbetting in the same way as poker hardly registers on the financial accounts of betfair and ladbrokes anymore. Looks like he will just keep cranking up the price of poker to suit himself and not his loyal customers and if you don't like it then you are happy to leave. The only way he can get a return on the 5bn investment is to start hoovering up a much bigger % of the deposits stars have and stop leaking them to poker pros. ie via casino games and sports betting. Even then it's still a mind boogling sum to pay for a poker only company operating in a declining market given the market caps of ladbrokes hills bwin etc etc It's a huge gamble imo which has a fair % chance of going massively tits up.
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« Reply #281 on: December 01, 2014, 05:42:37 PM » |
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« Reply #282 on: December 01, 2014, 06:30:48 PM » |
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That might be the greatest thing I have seen pokerstars ever do
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[19:44:40] Oracle: WE'RE ALL GOING ON A SPANISH HOLIDAY! TRIGGS STABLES SHIT!
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Woodsey
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« Reply #283 on: December 01, 2014, 06:40:35 PM » |
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I think I would literally have a heart attack playing for that amount lol.
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DaveShoelace
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« Reply #284 on: December 01, 2014, 06:42:03 PM » |
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I think I would literally have a heart attack playing for that amount lol. Normally yes, but given the other two guys get a $100k prize it probably removes that tension.
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