Hand from MCOP

[The Camel]

Blinds are 1000-2000/300

I have just bluffed off 25k in a silly spot. Leaving myself with 85k.

UTG, a very wild and aggressive player opens for 4500.

UTG +1 is by far the tightest player on the table. He has only shown down premium hands in the 3 hours I've been at the table.

He makes it 11k.

I am on the button and find KK.

Both players have me covered, they each have about 150k.

Call/Raise/Shove?

[pleno1]

i think it truly depends on how you bluffed in the hand previously. depending on how you did it could make 4betting way better

[dreenie]

What are there stacks behind?

I would elect to shove if utg +1 is exactly how you described. Get called by Queens and double....

[The Camel]

i think it truly depends on how you bluffed in the hand previously. depending on how you did it could make 4betting way better

Chino raised button, I called in sb with 55.

Flop QQ9.

I check called 4800.

Turn 9.

check check.

River 3, I bet 20k, he had a queen and someone made me show my hand. (there was a real mix up, he wanted to raise but the dealer miscalled it)

This is the very next hand.

[MC]

Interesting. Definitely don't call, I think I like this best vs described villain:

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[The Camel]

Thought there's a decent chance I'd get a 4bet from the UTG player with a call.

[SuuPRlim]

4bet gonna look like youre steaming?

[pleno1]

yeh 4b/c i think

[The Camel]

4bet gonna look like youre steaming?

I dunno, that was the dilemma:

Option 1: Call - give the UTG player the chance to rr but leave the risk of playing the pot 3 handed.

Option 2: Raise - does this look like I'm steaming or does it look insanely strong?

Option 3: Shove - does this look I'm steaming more? Chance of not getting any action if UTG +1 has AQ or TT.

[Doobs]

i think it truly depends on how you bluffed in the hand previously. depending on how you did it could make 4betting way better

Chino raised button, I called in sb with 55.

Flop QQ9.

I check called 4800.

Turn 9.

check check.

River 3, I bet 20k, he had a queen and someone made me show my hand. (there was a real mix up, he wanted to raise but the dealer miscalled it)

This is the very next hand.

Chino in attempted angle shoot mix up? 

Given you bet big before think you shove here, though don't think it makes much difference.  Some will think you must be massive because you were FOS before when you bet big, others will assume the 4 bet is massive as big bet is bluff. 

[MC]

I highly doubt the UTG player is ever likely to 4bet in any way light vs described villain in these positions hence why I don't like calling.

I presume villain's 3 betting range from +1 could easily be JJ+, AK and doubt he folds them vs a jam

[Junior Senior]

Just gii.

[scotty77]

I think 4betting is slightly better than jamming.

Don't think there's much in it tho.

Wouldn't ever be calling.

[Honeybadger]

IMO 4betting to anywhere between 18k and 26k is better than either flatting or jamming.

[The Camel]

Yeah, I four bet to 22k.

UTG folded, UTG +1 made a reluctant calll.

Flop was K22 :/

We checked down to the turn where I bet 15k and he insta mucked.

On reflection I thinking jamming was best. Close though.