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« on: December 30, 2014, 04:04:38 PM »

Hi all,

First thing for those of you that don't know this is Amatay Smiley I had tighty change my account name a while ago for a few reasons. Anyways, the main point of this thread is a 'dodge' Poker account I have on one particular site. I've been playing poker since 2003/4 and originally the poker account was in my own name. In about 2005 maybe 2006 some random guy offered me a rake back deal but I had to open another account using another name. My mum has since had a very successful Poker account Smiley

I know this is frowned on by the poker community etc but probably less so back then. It's not as thou I was any playing in any remotely big games anyways and never used my new account to create an edge for example. It's not something I would ever do since I started playing for a living in 2008.

I've always been a lazy grinder with very small mincey bollocks. However, my volume has significantly increased in the last 5-6 months, I've been winning a decent amount, plus recently I've really found some extra motivation and ambition which I've lacked previously. Basically I plan to play a lot next year and also plan to play more of the bigger flagship tournaments etc. What I'm worried about is that If I was lucky to bink a chunky tournament on a Sunday or something it may look a little odd that a 58 yr old women from Watford has won it and and that she plays a large level of volume etc lol.

So the dilemma. Do I.....

a, Keep playing on my 'mums' account
b, Contact the site and explain the situation, or....
c, Withdraw from 'mums' account and just open a fresh new account.

Personally, I want to keep my 'mums' account but want it under my name. However, I am worried I will get banned.

Appreciate your opinions. Cheers!


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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2014, 04:44:44 PM »

I wouldn't contact the site about it.

It's likely a clear terms of service violation and they may just lock it and seize any funds in the account. It may also prevent you from opening another account on there in the future. I can't even get an account on PKR anymore because I signed up in my own name in 2008 with an old email address which I can't remember and trying to open a new one automatically locks it. I've moved house twice since then, had 3 different bank accounts and email addresses but they still know it's me from my Date of Birth etc. 

I would try and cash it off myself just to get the money safe, and then go from there. From experience and thing's I've read I'll list the sites below and how they seem to view multi accounting.

Pokerstars / Full Tilt - They crack down on it hard, but their support staff are the most helpful and may be a bit lenient if they decide to believe your story.
888 - Don't seem to care. I've had a ton of accounts on there over the years and they probably all still work. They've never instantly locked it and I've cashed out on the majority of them.
IPoker - They will insta-lock an account if they detect anything odd, but I've had the live chat staff take the block off in minutes after explaining. May depend on the skin though.
PKR - As mentioned above, if they think it's a second account it's an instant ban and they won't unlock the old one unless you send documents. 
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2014, 05:12:52 PM »

You want to keep your "mums" account as you are still getting better rake back? Is there any other reason to play under this account?

It happens a lot on Sky - there is an issue with multi-accounters.

The only reason these players do it is so they can get 30% rake back. Which in £ terms can make them an extra £100-£200 a month easily. Take that over 1 year at £200, 2.4k and it's a significant boost for breaking the rules.

It's frustrating to a lot of regs who play by the rules that these players are getting this extra money.

However, the frustrating thing for me with multi-accounters is the fact i'm sitting playing them, they know how I play while their hiding behind a different screen name.

The issue IMO is affiliate websites. There is a lot of talk of what is damaging the industry / why it's in decline.

It's affiliates offering these great rake back deals, which encourages people to multi-account to get these great deals, which is most defiantly damaging to the overall poker economy.

From a business's perspective also, they are paying 30% rake back to the player, the affiliate is also getting their cut, say 3/5%, of any rake that player plays on that site for as long as they play.
  
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2014, 05:20:24 PM »

The rakeback deal lasted about a year. I don't get rb anymore and haven't done for a long time. I want to keep my 'mums' account as its not right to have a different name and perhaps have an edge over opponents. I have certain dynamics with certain players. If I had another name then obviously I create an unfair advantage however it can also work against me as i have a opinion of how I think certain players perceive me and adjust accordingly etc. I want to keep the same username but my bank details.
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2014, 05:34:20 PM »

Your mum.
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2014, 05:35:59 PM »

Is there any reason to change the accounts you're currently using, other than the fear that you'll bink big and your 'cover' will be blown?  Will the site care that a 58-year old woman has just won a big comp and grinds serious volume?
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2014, 05:37:01 PM »

Your mum.


lol this

if you honestly think contacting the site is going to be a good idea your prob not +ev at poker, come on......  idiot
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2014, 05:37:49 PM »

Is there any reason to change the accounts you're currently using, other than the fear that you'll bink big and your 'cover' will be blown?  Will the site care that a 58-year old woman has just won a big comp and grinds serious volume?

what happens when they want to interview the high volume middle aged woman? what happens if they even try and contact 'her' once.  sick optimism though Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2014, 05:38:34 PM »

I was just about to post the name "Amatay" in the whatever happened to thread!

Stuff like this wouldn't have happened in the first place if poker sites hadn't gone down the route of offering different rb deams to different players

It was penalising their loyal players to the benefit of new players.

Stupid.

In you spot, I'd likely just carry on as you currently are.

You are liable to lose both accounts if you contact the site.
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2014, 05:40:30 PM »

it may look a little odd that a 58 yr old women from Watford has won it and and that she plays a large level of volume etc lol.

This is the highlight of the thread!
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2014, 05:40:40 PM »

Your mum.

Obviously this.
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2014, 05:40:47 PM »

Out of principle you should close your mum's account immediately.

And then out of financial benefit your auntie should contact me shortly for a cracking rb deal.....
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2014, 05:41:04 PM »

Is there any reason to change the accounts you're currently using, other than the fear that you'll bink big and your 'cover' will be blown?  Will the site care that a 58-year old woman has just won a big comp and grinds serious volume?

what happens when they want to interview the high volume middle aged woman? what happens if they even try and contact 'her' once.  sick optimism though Cheesy

Haha yh thats what I mean. Can see Matt Pitt (aka yorky pud) doing an article on Pokernews about my mum binking a big one and flying up the P5 rankings. Just seems a bit dodge.

Got to respect my optimism Titbean Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2014, 05:42:07 PM »

it also matter what site its on tbh
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2014, 05:43:59 PM »

Out of principle you should close your mum's account immediately.

And then out of financial benefit your auntie should contact me shortly for a cracking rb deal.....

hahahahaha winner.

Probably not going to get many decent answer but at least i'm pissing myself laughing at some of these repsonses.

ffs what should I do?
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