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« Reply #120 on: January 09, 2015, 10:25:57 AM »

Ok, I'll say something.

Firstly I'm a Muslim not a devout one by any stretch of the imagination. My parents are very religious and I use to go to mosque pretty much every day after school from the age of 10 through to around 15. I was never taught to a) blow myself up b) kill the infidels c) look for a decent spot to become martyr etc etc you get my point. I was taught about the history of Islam how to live like a decent human being, respect your parents just generally be a good Muslim. I now go to mosque I'd say 3/4 times a year and still none of the a/b/c etc being brainwashed into me.

My parents live in Pakistan and do not cheer when a terrorist blows himself up/kills innocents in the name of Islam.

I never get involved when a person/persons do something horrific in the name of Islam. It's generally the people with a very low IQ or just plain racists/bigots who have a platform to spout the same shit over and over again.

Woodsey I found the stuff you wrote very offensive but I'm probably never going to meet you and at the end of the day it's a forum where anyone can be a hero with a keyboard.

Some of the cartoons that Charlie Hebdo put up I found offensive but I'm not going to kill someone over it.

40 people were killed in Yemen by terrorists last time I checked a muslim country.

The massacre of children recently in Pakistan by terrorists once again a muslim country.

They don't really care who they kill.

Pretty much a thumbs up to everyone of Red Dogs post.

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« Reply #121 on: January 09, 2015, 12:19:58 PM »

Ok, I'll say something.

Firstly I'm a Muslim not a devout one by any stretch of the imagination. My parents are very religious and I use to go to mosque pretty much every day after school from the age of 10 through to around 15. I was never taught to a) blow myself up b) kill the infidels c) look for a decent spot to become martyr etc etc you get my point. I was taught about the history of Islam how to live like a decent human being, respect your parents just generally be a good Muslim. I now go to mosque I'd say 3/4 times a year and still none of the a/b/c etc being brainwashed into me.

My parents live in Pakistan and do not cheer when a terrorist blows himself up/kills innocents in the name of Islam.

I never get involved when a person/persons do something horrific in the name of Islam. It's generally the people with a very low IQ or just plain racists/bigots who have a platform to spout the same shit over and over again.

Woodsey I found the stuff you wrote very offensive but I'm probably never going to meet you and at the end of the day it's a forum where anyone can be a hero with a keyboard.

Some of the cartoons that Charlie Hebdo put up I found offensive but I'm not going to kill someone over it.

40 people were killed in Yemen by terrorists last time I checked a muslim country.

The massacre of children recently in Pakistan by terrorists once again a muslim country.

They don't really care who they kill.

Pretty much a thumbs up to everyone of Red Dogs post.

Cracking post

Good post fella.
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« Reply #122 on: January 09, 2015, 01:04:55 PM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-30722098
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« Reply #123 on: January 09, 2015, 08:26:52 PM »

Saw this today. Thought it was quite powerful, and goes well with maldini's post.
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« Reply #124 on: January 09, 2015, 08:29:23 PM »

Most moving interview I've seen in years

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30751424
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« Reply #125 on: January 09, 2015, 09:39:52 PM »

I've always been a big fan of Will Self but thought his views came across as rather tepid on ch4 news this evening.
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« Reply #126 on: January 10, 2015, 12:50:07 PM »

Just to put these terrorist attacks into context, someone posted this on another forum I'm on:

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Just within the last three days:

2015.01.09 (Rawalpindi, Pakistan) - Eight worshippers are blown to bits by a suicide bomber at a Shia mosque.
2015.01.08 (Baghdad, Iraq) - A Sunni suicide bomber wades into a Shiite mosque and slaughters at least eight worshippers.
2015.01.08 (Baga, Nigeria)  Boko Haram attacks town of Baga in northern Nigeria killing at least 100 people
2015.01.07 (Zhari, Afghanistan) - Taliban bombers take out two children gathering firewood.
2015.01.07 (Baghlan, Afghanistan) - Six road workers are machine-gunned point-blank

The murders in Paris were aimed at a target that had mocked Islam (and religion in general), but surely they'd have found another target if that one hadn't been presented to them. A Jewish centre, a police station, an army barracks, random people in a shopping centre, etc. Those nurturing and promoting the Islamic terrorism have an agenda, and whilst they have disaffected, uneducated, or vulnerable people to use to create the terror and acts of murder, it's going to continue.

Of course, I have no idea what the solution is.
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« Reply #127 on: January 10, 2015, 11:13:50 PM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-30761963

Not in the news.

#shocking

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-30761963

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« Reply #128 on: January 10, 2015, 11:44:55 PM »

Just to put these terrorist attacks into context, someone posted this on another forum I'm on:

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Just within the last three days:

2015.01.09 (Rawalpindi, Pakistan) - Eight worshippers are blown to bits by a suicide bomber at a Shia mosque.
2015.01.08 (Baghdad, Iraq) - A Sunni suicide bomber wades into a Shiite mosque and slaughters at least eight worshippers.
2015.01.08 (Baga, Nigeria)  Boko Haram attacks town of Baga in northern Nigeria killing at least 100 people
2015.01.07 (Zhari, Afghanistan) - Taliban bombers take out two children gathering firewood.
2015.01.07 (Baghlan, Afghanistan) - Six road workers are machine-gunned point-blank

The murders in Paris were aimed at a target that had mocked Islam (and religion in general), but surely they'd have found another target if that one hadn't been presented to them. A Jewish centre, a police station, an army barracks, random people in a shopping centre, etc. Those nurturing and promoting the Islamic terrorism have an agenda, and whilst they have disaffected, uneducated, or vulnerable people to use to create the terror and acts of murder, it's going to continue.

Of course, I have no idea what the solution is.



At least I can see a reason for the Paris attack.

What the fuck is the point of the others?
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« Reply #129 on: January 11, 2015, 12:43:42 AM »

Just to put these terrorist attacks into context, someone posted this on another forum I'm on:

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Just within the last three days:

2015.01.09 (Rawalpindi, Pakistan) - Eight worshippers are blown to bits by a suicide bomber at a Shia mosque.
2015.01.08 (Baghdad, Iraq) - A Sunni suicide bomber wades into a Shiite mosque and slaughters at least eight worshippers.
2015.01.08 (Baga, Nigeria)  Boko Haram attacks town of Baga in northern Nigeria killing at least 100 people
2015.01.07 (Zhari, Afghanistan) - Taliban bombers take out two children gathering firewood.
2015.01.07 (Baghlan, Afghanistan) - Six road workers are machine-gunned point-blank

The murders in Paris were aimed at a target that had mocked Islam (and religion in general), but surely they'd have found another target if that one hadn't been presented to them. A Jewish centre, a police station, an army barracks, random people in a shopping centre, etc. Those nurturing and promoting the Islamic terrorism have an agenda, and whilst they have disaffected, uneducated, or vulnerable people to use to create the terror and acts of murder, it's going to continue.

Of course, I have no idea what the solution is.



At least I can see a reason for the Paris attack.

What the fuck is the point of the others?

I assume the kids gathering firewood were killed by a mine or an unexploded bomb and it wasn't a case of the Taliban or whoever dropped it or left it deliberately taking them out.  Several children in Vietnam and Laos go the same way each year.  Guess we describe those differently. 
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« Reply #130 on: January 11, 2015, 10:08:18 AM »

I agree with the points made above about putting the Paris attacks into context (and perspective). The number killed was very small compared with the numbers in other parts of the world, but Western lives still seem to be valued disproportionately. The same day as the magazine attack, it was reported that Boko Haram had destroyed sixteen towns and villages in Northern Nigeria, killing 2,000 people and displacing 20-30,000. The towns are reported to have been actually razed to the ground. The coverage of this has been sparse compared with the saturation regarding Paris.

Of course, there are reasons for that. It seems more shocking when it has happened in a Western capital, especially one so close; we can easily imagine the Paris situation happening here; the individuals killed were prominent people, and so on. And, of course, media access makes a huge difference. We don't have much access to Northern Nigeria whereas we have been able to watch the movie of the attack in France and follow the exciting chase. Still though, a dozen Western deaths from terrorism = saturation; 2,000 African deaths from terrorism = not much.
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« Reply #131 on: January 11, 2015, 11:39:57 AM »

I well remember a sketch from Not The Nine O'Clock News. I could have only have been 11 or 12 when I saw it, but it left a deep impression.

Pamela Stephenson was reading the news in her gravest voice possible.

"Today, an airplane crashed into the Atlantic.

"It is feared all 372 passengers and crew have been killed.

"In order of importance, on board there were 2 British, 11 Americans, 6 Canadians, 15 Australians, 1 New Zealander, 3 Irish and 334 assorted krauts, frogs, pakis, spicks, wops and dagos".
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« Reply #132 on: January 11, 2015, 03:34:29 PM »

Not sure if this has been posted but a very good interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5tc48iaki0
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« Reply #133 on: January 12, 2015, 12:40:25 AM »

Can't embed this for some reason but Fox News need to sack this bloke.

http://youtu.be/w6HwtoOBMaA
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« Reply #134 on: January 12, 2015, 12:50:37 AM »

Can't embed this for some reason but Fox News need to sack this bloke.




What a moron.
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