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[Graham C]

I think people are missing the elephant in the room

DTD sponsorship

I know that there may not even be a Blondepoker if it were not for the kind Mr Yong but before the DTD deal, the promotion of the various different festivals surely encouraged a wider audience and more new members especially during the live updates. It was during a Blondepoker live update that I first heard of the forum.

WRT to TfT I agree with Ray, Vin and Red. It's not for me but I totally endorse it and def would not want to see it go.

I would have thought the DTD thing would have helped the forum with the amount of people they have through the door.   It wouldn't take a lot for a few flyers for the forum to be put on tables (sit down & relax ones, not the poker tables of course) or some other form of advertising in the club.

Can the homepage not be updated yet?  I know there has been technical issues with this in the past.

[bobAlike]

I think people are missing the elephant in the room

DTD sponsorship

I know that there may not even be a Blondepoker if it were not for the kind Mr Yong but before the DTD deal, the promotion of the various different festivals surely encouraged a wider audience and more new members especially during the live updates. It was during a Blondepoker live update that I first heard of the forum.

WRT to TfT I agree with Ray, Vin and Red. It's not for me but I totally endorse it and def would not want to see it go.

I would have thought the DTD thing would have helped the forum with the amount of people they have through the door.   It wouldn't take a lot for a few flyers for the forum to be put on tables (sit down & relax ones, not the poker tables of course) or some other form of advertising in the club.

Can the homepage not be updated yet?  I know there has been technical issues with this in the past.

Your point of numbers through the door is valid but I am not aware that DTD actively promotes Blondepoker in its club. Might be wrong though??

My point is that variety of festivals/live updates will always encourage sign ups and its up to us then to encourage new sign ups to stay and participate.

I don't know what the answer is just giving my PoV. These types of discussion must surely help though.

[Graham C]

I don't think DTD does promote the forum, that was my point.  I would have thought it could do given that it doesn't have it's own forum and it also has a stake in this place.

[bobAlike]

As far as I am aware Pre DTD no other casinos promoted Blonde it was Blonde that promoted itself via live updates etc.

[TightEnd]

As far as I am aware Pre DTD no other casinos promoted Blonde it was Blonde that promoted itself via live updates etc.

but we also ended up promoting other casinos and tours for free. they didn't pay for the live updates, they didn't provide anything for the busy threads promoting the tours/festivals

this was Rob's objection to them continuing to have a presence on blonde once we partnerred

now of course DTD is aligned with almost all the market operators (UKIPT/WPT/Genting) so most festivals are pushed on here, Grosvenor apart

[scotty2hatty]

There has been repeated mention of "trolls" making life difficult.

Think we need to tread warily here, it's quite hard to accurately define what is, & is not, trolling. 

Just because a Member regularly posts extreme & disagreeable views does not mean he is a troll - maybe he just thinks different to the rest of us?

We get a lot of complaints about one chap, & I'll name him, because he is that rarity, a man who soaks up the jibes & stands his corner - KMac. He's thick-skinned & he'll not be overly bothered by me mentioning him. He might put a few fucks into me, mind, but I'll live. Say "boo" to some folks & you'd think you'd insulted their kids or summat, but KMac just spits back.

Do I agree with many of his posts? Hell no. I disagree with at least 90% of them.

Do I like his online personna? Nope, I think he likes to offend way too often. I've never met him in real life, I suspect we'd get on fine, as it happens. 

Is he often rude? Yep.

But I genuinely think that he believes the stuff he writes. He's a radical, bit of an extremist, some might say a bloody nutjob.

Even so, I don't think he is a troll at all, just someone who thinks different to most of us. No crime in that.

We should not ban people because they think & act differently to most of us.

Remember, too, that without exception, when we ban a Member, we lose other Members in sympathy.

KMac is still a Scottish tosser though.

Somehow I've managed to miss Kmac being all of the above. Bizarre. Maybe cos I'm Scottish too.

[Woodsey]

Us regular posters should just try and start 1 topic a week, there must be at least a hundred of us that fall into that bracket?

[bobAlike]

As far as I am aware Pre DTD no other casinos promoted Blonde it was Blonde that promoted itself via live updates etc.

but we also ended up promoting other casinos and tours for free. they didn't pay for the live updates, they didn't provide anything for the busy threads promoting the tours/festivals

this was Rob's objection to them continuing to have a presence on blonde once we partnerred

now of course DTD is aligned with almost all the market operators (UKIPT/WPT/Genting) so most festivals are pushed on here, Grosvenor apart

I get it but no Blonde live updates! Which are generally accepted as the best in the world.

Sometimes in business you have to offer loss leaders to attract more sales. Blonde should see the free casino promotion as this loss leader. Obviously it's different if being sponsored by DTD but that's entirely my point.

[TightEnd]

As far as I am aware Pre DTD no other casinos promoted Blonde it was Blonde that promoted itself via live updates etc.

but we also ended up promoting other casinos and tours for free. they didn't pay for the live updates, they didn't provide anything for the busy threads promoting the tours/festivals

this was Rob's objection to them continuing to have a presence on blonde once we partnerred

now of course DTD is aligned with almost all the market operators (UKIPT/WPT/Genting) so most festivals are pushed on here, Grosvenor apart

I get it but no Blonde live updates! Which are generally accepted as the best in the world.

Sometimes in business you have to offer loss leaders to attract more sales. Blonde should see the free casino promotion as this loss leader. Obviously it's different if being sponsored by DTD but that's entirely my point.

i know the updates are a big loss, i lived and breathed them but the economics of them in this poker market are extremely difficult and the strategy of the operators has changed too

hypothetically we are unsponsored, that doesn't mean we walk into a GUKPT or GPS and start updating again.

I am not prepared to do another three years of working 50 hour weekends for an hourly rate of zero, affecting my quality of life, and i wouldn't ask anyone else to do it

so using market rates for a non DTD update of two people (no more single person updates, i was daft to do them) and taking cheap hotels, travel and subsistence day rates you are talking about £800- £1000 for two days (location dependent, depending on distance, london etc). Thats in an era where all the operators do updates themselves and don't necessarily want third parties in anyway

back in our heyday we had a cardroom generating x and x+y went out on updates

they only worked on here from 2010-13 because i was prepared to do them solo, for expenses only and for the love of it, cost for a DTD event £200 because that was the budget (and it was much appreciated that donations funded it for a year too)

[bobAlike]

I understand all that and I for one don't blame you. Of course Blonde updates would only work if they could be paid for thus meaning generating income from somewhere to pay for them. I don't know what the answer is but if it was my business I would be trying to analyse the problems and how best to deal with them. I'm sure you are all doing this at Blonde but maybe you should set up some sort of forum to ask for help??

[TightEnd]

sorry to get on my high horse

i happen to believe that the updates are good for an operator, fantastic PR when done well but its very difficult to prove

Its not as if they would be a panacea for a slow forum especially either. Yes views and posts would be up but traffic on the updates first half of 2013 was much lower than previously (viewers during updates being a key measure)

follow through from any link to "push" stuff was non-existent too

i would love us to have more updates (the Ray came third one was one of my favourites, and i was proud of many others i did). Before me some of the snoopy, jen, floppy stuff hasn't been matched since anywhere but as you can see its not as simple as we would like

even before we consider if DTD actually want them

[Kmac84]

There has been repeated mention of "trolls" making life difficult.

Think we need to tread warily here, it's quite hard to accurately define what is, & is not, trolling. 

Just because a Member regularly posts extreme & disagreeable views does not mean he is a troll - maybe he just thinks different to the rest of us?

We get a lot of complaints about one chap, & I'll name him, because he is that rarity, a man who soaks up the jibes & stands his corner - KMac. He's thick-skinned & he'll not be overly bothered by me mentioning him. He might put a few fucks into me, mind, but I'll live. Say "boo" to some folks & you'd think you'd insulted their kids or summat, but KMac just spits back.

Do I agree with many of his posts? Hell no. I disagree with at least 90% of them.

Do I like his online personna? Nope, I think he likes to offend way too often. I've never met him in real life, I suspect we'd get on fine, as it happens. 

Is he often rude? Yep.

But I genuinely think that he believes the stuff he writes. He's a radical, bit of an extremist, some might say a bloody nutjob.

Even so, I don't think he is a troll at all, just someone who thinks different to most of us. No crime in that.

We should not ban people because they think & act differently to most of us.

Remember, too, that without exception, when we ban a Member, we lose other Members in sympathy.

KMac is still a Scottish tosser though.

Somehow I've managed to miss Kmac being all of the above. Bizarre. Maybe cos I'm Scottish too.

This lol :-)

Bunch of southern softies on here who are far to precious. 

[tikay]

There has been repeated mention of "trolls" making life difficult.

Think we need to tread warily here, it's quite hard to accurately define what is, & is not, trolling. 

Just because a Member regularly posts extreme & disagreeable views does not mean he is a troll - maybe he just thinks different to the rest of us?

We get a lot of complaints about one chap, & I'll name him, because he is that rarity, a man who soaks up the jibes & stands his corner - KMac. He's thick-skinned & he'll not be overly bothered by me mentioning him. He might put a few fucks into me, mind, but I'll live. Say "boo" to some folks & you'd think you'd insulted their kids or summat, but KMac just spits back.

Do I agree with many of his posts? Hell no. I disagree with at least 90% of them.

Do I like his online personna? Nope, I think he likes to offend way too often. I've never met him in real life, I suspect we'd get on fine, as it happens. 

Is he often rude? Yep.

But I genuinely think that he believes the stuff he writes. He's a radical, bit of an extremist, some might say a bloody nutjob.

Even so, I don't think he is a troll at all, just someone who thinks different to most of us. No crime in that.

We should not ban people because they think & act differently to most of us.

Remember, too, that without exception, when we ban a Member, we lose other Members in sympathy.

KMac is still a Scottish tosser though.

Somehow I've managed to miss Kmac being all of the above. Bizarre. Maybe cos I'm Scottish too.

This lol :-)

Bunch of southern softies on here who are far to precious. 

Ha!

EXACTLY the reaction I'd expect from you. I could not write that Post about many without eliciting a nasty PM, for sure.

You're still a nutjob though. And a Scot. Perfect pairing. 

[leethefish]

I find it quite strange that I have only briefly looked at the tft thread once I think !

I think we all go thru spells of not posting much maybe we all are at the same times !

[Oxford_HRV]

IMHO nearly all types of forums are probably dying, clearly we can all agree the Internet was a much more fascinating an undiscoverec place years and years ago, forum interaction with people who were sharing the same broad interests was just new and exciting! no one could physically confront you on your opinions or over talk you, you felt like your words were printed there forever. it was like the freedom of speech all over again, you felt safe to say what you wanted no matter how controversial. you would get more of a buzz just broadcasting your thoughts to people.

But now with the hugely available online social interaction of the web, nearly everything can be directly commented on. Everyone by now has read thousands of people's opinions on thousands of subjects. so now it's just somewhere people have come to understand you can just 'read' a community online, not create. I guarantee for nearly all users It just doesn't seem that exciting to get involved anymore. Whilst when the Internet was starting to boom it was a diff story.