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[77dave]

Jim you are also factually incorrect

the liverpool thread had 20 posts in august, from a dozen or so posters including 8 liverpool fans

quieter of course, but not telling me that everyone has taken their kenny dalglish signed ball and gone indoors

Most of the posts in August are fantasy football related.

A question was asked as to why people are posting less. I have voiced an opinion and your trying to prove me wrong rather than listening to what I'm saying. Maybe that's another reason for the decline.

[77dave]

The Liverpool thread is the 5th most popular thread of all time by posts and views.

Concerns about trolling in the thread was voiced and ignored. The majority of the main posters are fed up of having their complaints fall on deaf ears and now don't post anymore resulting in a hugely popular thread now being dead.

Again this is a problem on the forum, your not supposed to have to get all threads going they need natural life. It should have a life of its own and not need stoking.
not ignored, listened to and discussed publically with you, i also spoke to arbboy about it.

the sensitivity on some football threads is massive, but thats inevitable because the subject means a lot to the fans

the betting tips and sports threads in general are extremely vibrant.

Their was no discussion

Why do you think one of the longest running and most popular threads on the forum has totally died.

i could get it going in a flash.

in fact i will when there is something relevant

last thing that was relevant was sterling transfer yes or no and the thread was busy

threads come and go, even long standing ones. i'd rather you, aaron and a couple of other liverpool diehards did post, of course.

currently the man u thread is more active than the liverpool one, the issues are more germane
 

[TightEnd]

Jim you are also factually incorrect

the liverpool thread had 20 posts in august, from a dozen or so posters including 8 liverpool fans

quieter of course, but not telling me that everyone has taken their kenny dalglish signed ball and gone indoors

Most of the posts in August are fantasy football related.

A question was asked as to why people are posting less. I have voiced an opinion and your trying to prove me wrong rather than listening to what I'm saying. Maybe that's another reason for the decline.

i am just giving you facts. it has not completely died.

i respect your opinion and would like you to post more

try the liverpool thread again

[TightEnd]

If argueboy and his antics caused a couple of pages of discussion then I'd argue it's good for the thread and good for blonde.

its a constant balancing act

He's a pillock at times. He upsets people at times. this might lose posters.


but he is a very frequent poster, he promotes discussions, he's intelligent and makes robust points, sometimes over-robustly which is back to the downsides above

he's not alone in this either, though


arbboy wasn't on here for 3-4 years, but i was in the vanguard to get him back over several face to face discussions and i know the risks and rewards

[leethefish]

Bring back herbie .....
Post count  won't be a problem anymore 😉

[nirvana]

Bring back herbie .....
Post count  won't be a problem anymore 😉

One man's robust pillock is another man's ban

[tikay]

I always thought that a blonde podcast would be good. Poker based but lots of off topic stuff like on here - sports betting etc.

Unless I have missed it, there isn't a regular UK based poker podcast.

Weird you say this.

I mentioned it to Lil Dave before and think to Pleno too.

I'd be up for doing it with either or both of these two once a week and having guests on etc and somehow hosting on blonde/through blonde.

Thanks Mark, & Mr Fashion Policeman,

Will reply to this in the morning. 

[tikay]

I always thought that a blonde podcast would be good. Poker based but lots of off topic stuff like on here - sports betting etc.

Unless I have missed it, there isn't a regular UK based poker podcast.

Weird you say this.

I mentioned it to Lil Dave before and think to Pleno too.

I'd be up for doing it with either or both of these two once a week and having guests on etc and somehow hosting on blonde/through blonde.

Thanks for this suggestion, & the offer of help.

For starters, what I like & what others like are different things. I've never listened to a podcast, & would not know how to make one. Others, though, may love them, so yeah, we are interested.

What would we be trying to achieve by running Podcasts? (Not a dig question, just trying to see the strategy).  More interaction on the Forum maybe, a sort of post Podcast Q & A as to why you check-raised in a certain spot or whatever?

Free to view?

Do they have to be poker only? We have some realty interesting folks on blonde in areas away from poker.

Costs?

No negativity from me at all, but Podcasts are not my era, I still have a wireless.

We'd be interested in anything which increases interest & interaction.

[MANTIS01]

Back in the day the diversity of poker action, updates from different venues, news and stories was very rich. I would enjoy tuning in and reading about some crazy antics in Luton or catching up with an update from Birmingham. The sponsorship from DTD has killed a lot of that variety, that colour. Personally I don't play at DTD and so find the relentless focus with what goes on at a single card room very boring. Whenever this point is raised all you get is a deluge of DTD fan boys saying how much this Rob fella has done for poker and what a great card room DTD is, again all very boring. The Rail used to be quite alluring but now it's just a wall of DTD spam so I just flick on and flick away again, all very boring. So my question would be what other sponsorships, what other ways of working, what other options are you guys investigating? It seems you are trying to force the issue onto posters to solve when that's not the only option or indeed a strategy which is sustainable in the long term.

[TightEnd]

these are fair points, and i know what the downsides are

the simple answer to your last point is that an alternative is not being investigated

you have also to bear in mind that we owe DTD a lot, Rob specifically

After the horror that was the blonde cardroom, where we locked into a terrible contract with all sorts of onerous provisions the site was close to closure. Rob's support meant we kept going, and it is getting on for four years of sponsorship now (in two spells) which is some going for a poker partnership

the two entities are close, on various levels, and that is i think something to be nourished if possible

as to DTD Spam, well yes. in part its because i do my job assiduously and in part its because DTD has so much going on whether live or online. initiatives coming out of their ears. sometimes rob wants a sperate thread. try to keep the number of stickied threads down of course

but the answer is not necessarily an "anti DTD" one but for a wider range of posters to start threads on the rail. in part that may be because there is less interest in poker generallly that it looks one sided with dtd content and not much else.

when we do get a meaty thread...antonius or huds being recent examples, the threads are lively, good debates and plenty of contributors

as to posting stuff on other live tours/online offers, i get that entirely but there was always a very firm view from DTD, simply expressed, that other organisations had posted on blonde for years and never supported us, that DTD would be supporting us and that meant no more freeloading to our eyeballs.

in the round, accepting that there are gripes inevitably, DTD is more good than bad for blonde imo

without them, the future for us in this poker industry environment is bleak

[tikay]

these are fair points, and i know what the downsides are

the simple answer to your last point is that an alternative is not being investigated

you have also to bear in mind that we owe DTD a lot, Rob specifically

After the horror that was the blonde cardroom, where we locked into a terrible contract with all sorts of onerous provisions the site was close to closure. Rob's support meant we kept going, and it is getting on for four years of sponsorship now (in two spells) which is some going for a poker partnership

the two entities are close, on various levels, and that is i think something to be nourished if possible

as to DTD Spam, well yes. in part its because i do my job assiduously and in part its because DTD has so much going on whether live or online. initiatives coming out of their ears. sometimes rob wants a sperate thread. try to keep the number of stickied threads down of course

but the answer is not necessarily an "anti DTD" one but for a wider range of posters to start threads on the rail. in part that may be because there is less interest in poker generallly that it looks one sided with dtd content and not much else.

when we do get a meaty thread...antonius or huds being recent examples, the threads are lively, good debates and plenty of contributors

as to posting stuff on other live tours/online offers, i get that entirely but there was always a very firm view from DTD, simply expressed, that other organisations had posted on blonde for years and never supported us, that DTD would be supporting us and that meant no more freeloading to our eyeballs.

in the round, accepting that there are gripes inevitably, DTD is more good than bad for blonde imo

without them, the future for us in this poker industry environment is bleak

Fair points? Not sure I agree with that, tbh.

The fundamental is that UK poker forums are mostly extinct, so yeah, blonde is a bit uphill these days. Given the social-media backdrop, & changing social patterns, I would not expect anything else, & we - all of us - have done well to survive a decade, especially after we got shockingly shafted back in 2007 by I-poker over the blonde Cardroom, & our founders & successors went AWOL.

Anyway, give me a mo, & I'll go do some finger wagging. Might take a while, as it'll be a lengthy Post.

"wall of DTD" spam indeed.......

 

[tikay]

Back in the day the diversity of poker action, updates from different venues, news and stories was very rich. I would enjoy tuning in and reading about some crazy antics in Luton or catching up with an update from Birmingham. The sponsorship from DTD has killed a lot of that variety, that colour. Personally I don't play at DTD and so find the relentless focus with what goes on at a single card room very boring. Whenever this point is raised all you get is a deluge of DTD fan boys saying how much this Rob fella has done for poker and what a great card room DTD is, again all very boring. The Rail used to be quite alluring but now it's just a wall of DTD spam so I just flick on and flick away again, all very boring. So my question would be what other sponsorships, what other ways of working, what other options are you guys investigating? It seems you are trying to force the issue onto posters to solve when that's not the only option or indeed a strategy which is sustainable in the long term.

Bit of rhetoric there Lord Mantis.

"Wall of DTD spam"?

The Rail had 46 active threads in August, of which 10 were DTD-facing.  

9 of the "non-DTD" threads were discussing other Cardrooms, Poker Rooms, or poker events elsewhere.

There is no ban on reports or updates from any room anywhere, just a lack of people prepared to post them. We don't allow commercial spam for other venues, that's all.

Even so, 98 (42.9%) of all active threads in August were poker-based. Poker is not confined to "The Rail". The Boards were split that way in response to requests from Members.  

In all, there were 228 active threads on blonde in August, of which around 10 were DTD threads. That's 4.3%.

Not the biggest wall I've ever seen.  





Remember the chap I mentioned who complained to me about lack of interesting threads? He'd never started ONE thread in 7 years as a Member. He wants free entertainment, spam-less, & does not want to make a bit of effort. How that work? He made zero effort so he lost his complaining rights.

It's more a Community than a business, & it's a freeroll for everyone. If we have no tolerance for ten threads a month, in amongst 228, then perhaps we need to look at tolerance levels.

blonde is what you make it, not just the Mods & shareholders. Have you viewed the forums on THM, Betfair or AWOP recently?

It's not easy for us (Mods, Tighty & I etc) to provide enough poker content, but if people want it, they can post it.

I genuinely don't know how to monetise blonde better, & it's a bit late now. Anything which monetises it better will require spam though. And more than 4.3%, fo sho.

There you go Mister, finger wagged.


 

[MANTIS01]

Lol ok Tikay maybe it's the arrangement of subject matter because that's how I perceive it when I click on the Rail. And as we know from the HUD thread pros like yourself can prove things on paper but it's the perception of amateurs like me that count.

[Cf]

It does seem a shame that the Liver poker board isn't alive any more. I know it's against DTD's wishes but it'd be nice if cardrooms were allowed their own thread and that was the only place they could post about their card room. It's what got me and I imagine others into blonde in the first place. A thread to discuss the latest goings on in Leeds doesn't on the surface appear to clash with DTD in any meaningful way. Could even drive traffic as more people are exposed to DTD's threads.

[MANTIS01]

On a more serious note, if Blonde closes what will become of Tal?