Sporting Crown Jewels

[Nakor]

In regards to TV rights - does this list still exist?

Always thought that the Open Golf rights were "guaranteed" for terrestrial TV?

Was very surprised to see the live coverage moving to SKY.  Think its a very sad day for free sport broadcasting.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/31114083

[TightEnd]

therse are the category A events remaining

Category A events are events which must have live coverage made available to free-to-air channels, although PPV networks may share live coverage. As of 2000, these events are:[1]

Association football:

    FIFA World Cup finals (all matches)
    UEFA European Football Championship finals (all matches)
    FA Cup Final
    Scottish Cup Final (applies to Scotland only)

Horse racing:

    Grand National
    Epsom Derby

Rugby league:

    Challenge Cup final

Rugby union:

    World Cup final

Tennis:

    Wimbledon Championships men's and women's finals

Multi-sport events:

    Olympic Games (both summer and winter)
    Paralympic Games (both summer and winter)




the six nations is currently in negotiationn too might go to sky

thats on the category b list that is free to go

Category B events can be shown on PPV, provided sufficient secondary coverage (highlights, delayed broadcast, etc.) is made to free-to-air broadcasters. As of 2000, the events covered by this category are:[1]

Athletics:

    IAAF World Championships

Cricket:

    Test matches played in England
    World Cup (the final, semi-finals, and any matches involving the Home Nations)

Golf:

    The Open
    Ryder Cup

Rugby union:

    World Cup (excluding the final)
    Six Nations Championship matches involving the Home Nations

Tennis:

    Wimbledon Championships (excluding the finals)

Multi-sport events:

    Commonwealth Games
    Invictus Games (From 2014)


its only athletics, wimbledon left once the 6n goes

[arbboy]

I never understand this because bbc and itv are not 'free' they are just cheaper than sky.  You still 'pay' via the TV licence which, in part, goes towards the fees for the BBC to purchase these rights.  The reason why sky has more products is because they charge more.  I have never understood why it's a 'right' to be able to watch top class sport for 'free' on TV any more than it is a right to watch it live without paying for it.

[Nakor]

Not about cost for me its about access. Just think the R and A (like the ECB) are short sighted. They will be complaining in 10 years that junior golf is dead and they cant attract new players.

[bobby1]

Really sad news this. Think golf on Sky is one of the sports where they let customers down badly.

[TightEnd]

Really sad news this. Think golf on Sky is one of the sports where they let customers down badly.

interesting. why's that?

they do cricket very well by the way, but it terribly terribly misses a presence on terrestial

[bobby1]

Really sad news this. Think golf on Sky is one of the sports where they let customers down badly.

interesting. why's that?

they do cricket very well by the way, but it terribly terribly misses a presence on terrestial

Well their highest profile tour is shown with the live symbol in the top corner and they should be done under the trades description act there. Can listen to it on internet radio and be miles in front of their coverage. They show loads of it which is good but could you ever see them showing a football/rugby/cricket match that is 30 seconds+ behind some overseas feeds?

[arbboy]

Really sad news this. Think golf on Sky is one of the sports where they let customers down badly.

interesting. why's that?

they do cricket very well by the way, but it terribly terribly misses a presence on terrestial

Well their highest profile tour is shown with the live symbol in the top corner and they should be done under the trades description act there. Can listen to it on internet radio and be miles in front of their coverage. They show loads of it which is good but could you ever see them showing a football/rugby/cricket match that is 30 seconds+ behind some overseas feeds?

agree totally pointless for anything inrunning punting related.

[Tal]

Really sad news this. Think golf on Sky is one of the sports where they let customers down badly.

I massively prefer the BBC coverage, too. Probably the only sport where I do (maybe Wimbledon). Golf isn't a "hype" sport for me. I enjoy sitting down and watching a major unfold quietly in front of me.

Whispering Peter mellowly notes how "Young Richard" Fowler's stance reminds him of some bloke I've never heard of from the fifties. Ken Brown drops a ball on the eighth green and putts it to show the left to right break we are about to see when Hunter Mahan finishes his deliberation.

The only edges I'd give Sky are when Jack Nicklaus is on for the Masters and I generally enjoy Butch Harman staring straight down the lens to address any question thrown his way.

[TightEnd]

Really sad news this. Think golf on Sky is one of the sports where they let customers down badly.

interesting. why's that?

they do cricket very well by the way, but it terribly terribly misses a presence on terrestial

Well their highest profile tour is shown with the live symbol in the top corner and they should be done under the trades description act there. Can listen to it on internet radio and be miles in front of their coverage. They show loads of it which is good but could you ever see them showing a football/rugby/cricket match that is 30 seconds+ behind some overseas feeds?

ok why do they do that? cheaper satellite costs?

the coverage itself is ok, but the time delay isn't?

[The Camel]

If it means we can finally see the back of Peter Alliss it isn't all bad news.

[The Camel]

Really sad news this. Think golf on Sky is one of the sports where they let customers down badly.

interesting. why's that?

they do cricket very well by the way, but it terribly terribly misses a presence on terrestial

Well their highest profile tour is shown with the live symbol in the top corner and they should be done under the trades description act there. Can listen to it on internet radio and be miles in front of their coverage. They show loads of it which is good but could you ever see them showing a football/rugby/cricket match that is 30 seconds+ behind some overseas feeds?

For non punters, a slight delay doesn't matter at all does it?

The thing I can't stand about the US coverage is they insist on showing Woods and Mickleson even when they are totally out of contention.

[bobby1]

Really sad news this. Think golf on Sky is one of the sports where they let customers down badly.

interesting. why's that?

they do cricket very well by the way, but it terribly terribly misses a presence on terrestial

Well their highest profile tour is shown with the live symbol in the top corner and they should be done under the trades description act there. Can listen to it on internet radio and be miles in front of their coverage. They show loads of it which is good but could you ever see them showing a football/rugby/cricket match that is 30 seconds+ behind some overseas feeds?

ok why do they do that? cheaper satellite costs?

the coverage itself is ok, but the time delay isn't?

I'm not really sure of the reason, they did have a  Q and A with someone at Sky golf in the RP a few years ago and he claimed it was live. There is a feed into some European countries that take it on Golf Directo (which I think is still free to air) which doesn't have many ad breaks. They show US golf slightly quicker than Sky and even the Euro picks would be 4-5 seconds in front too. Some Aussie feeds are quicker and then the Canadian feed is about the quickest there is and it is usually at least 30 secs and can be a minute some weeks in front of Sky and Directo.

Arb deffo on the mark re in running markets but even if you take gambling out of it think I agree with Tal too.

[bobby1]

Really sad news this. Think golf on Sky is one of the sports where they let customers down badly.

interesting. why's that?

they do cricket very well by the way, but it terribly terribly misses a presence on terrestial

Well their highest profile tour is shown with the live symbol in the top corner and they should be done under the trades description act there. Can listen to it on internet radio and be miles in front of their coverage. They show loads of it which is good but could you ever see them showing a football/rugby/cricket match that is 30 seconds+ behind some overseas feeds?

For non punters, a slight delay doesn't matter at all does it?

well it depends if you want to watch(and pay for) live sport that's live I guess. Would it be ok to show a Prem soccer match 30 seconds behind other providers and still call that live?

[Karabiner]

I remember once 15/20 years ago when the only in-running betting was satanJ on teletext and we had the choice of watching either the sky coverage or the US feed on an adjacent channel.

I soon realised that the US coverage was miles(20/30 seconds) ahead of the sky one and satan was pricing-up via the slower one.

I had a really good night but it sadly never happened again.