all-in pre flop early on

[Claw75]

Not an actual hand analysis, but I'd like some advice from experienced players on this situation please (sorry mods if this is in the wrong place).

Anyway, I've been playing a couple of months and doing ok, but am still not sure what to do when holding good pocket cards (eg AA or KK), and others go all-in on, say, the first hand of a big tournament.  Obviously the objective in a tournament is to stay in as long as possible, but I've always been confused about whether to call these all-in's and take the chance to double/triple up early, at the risk of a lesser hand getting a hit and me crashing out.

My gut feeling is that, at this stage, the sensible thing to do is fold whatever my pocket cards, write them off as a potential missed opportunity, and save all my chips for another hand.  Is this the way to go, or should I be calling?

thanks in advance!

[dan]

Not an actual hand analysis, but I'd like some advice from experienced players on this situation please (sorry mods if this is in the wrong place).

Anyway, I've been playing a couple of months and doing ok, but am still not sure what to do when holding good pocket cards (eg AA or KK), and others go all-in on, say, the first hand of a big tournament.  Obviously the objective in a tournament is to stay in as long as possible, but I've always been confused about whether to call these all-in's and take the chance to double/triple up early, at the risk of a lesser hand getting a hit and me crashing out.

My gut feeling is that, at this stage, the sensible thing to do is fold whatever my pocket cards, write them off as a potential missed opportunity, and save all my chips for another hand.  Is this the way to go, or should I be calling?

thanks in advance!

claw, i think the objective of a tourney is to win it, so you need everyone elses chips and there are not many better opotunities than AA or KK preflop if someone is in before me i call no matter what hand 1st or on the bubble

[TightEnd]

a) Right Board

b) the objective of a tournament for you is to win isn't it, not to survive?

c) Therefore I am calling an all in with AA on hand 1 of any tournament

d) KK probably too.

[mystery721]

someones all in b4 u and ur holding A A, then wipe that smile of ur face and call!! u need to stay in a tournament, but u need chips to stay in, there isnt a better way of doubling u up early in a tournament, this is a call everytime, everyone plays mtt,s differently , for me i like to play loose early on, for me its get chips or go out. when it comes to the first break i like to have more than enough chips to be able to play, i hate shortstack play, anything below 12 big blinds and im pushing in for a double up, if ur just starting out then a tight aggressive style is best, raise or fold, dont call its a weak play.

[Claw75]

Thanks for replies - guess I just need to take the risk.  would be interested to know where people would draw the line in this situation (i.e. what's the 'worst' hand you'd call with)?

[TightEnd]

IMHO you have the range right, AA or KK only that early on in a comp.

[dan]

Thanks for replies - guess I just need to take the risk.  would be interested to know where people would draw the line in this situation (i.e. what's the 'worst' hand you'd call with)?

74

[Dewi_cool]

if you have 2 all in's fold QQ IMHO

[mystery721]

calling all in preflop u want A A or  K K, anything else is just a gamble, try and stay away from all in calls, u should always be looking to be the agressor, dont get into the internet way of, going all in with a flush draw no matter how many chips u have or how much is in the pot! u will see this constantly in online play, 300 in the pot, 2 hearts on board and someone moves all in for 4000? it screams out flush draw and most decent players know this, there is no harm with raising with a flush draw. I do it constantly, but dont majorly overbet/go all in on flush draws, ur only gonna hit 1/3

[Claw75]

cheers guys - all duly noted just in time for my first crack at the crypto 10k! (watch me crash out with AA first hand now lol!).

also, have noticed these 74 references round the forum - what's the deal? 

[mystery721]

ignore the 7 4 play, playing 4 7 is for players who know wot they are doing, (no offence) if ur just starting out u only want to be playing premium hands, if ur new to the game 4 7 will lose u alot more than it will win u, stick to the premium hands get some experience, win a few tourneys, come back then we,ll tell u all about playing 4 7.........lol gl

[snoopy1239]

cheers guys - all duly noted just in time for my first crack at the crypto 10k! (watch me crash out with AA first hand now lol!).

also, have noticed these 74 references round the forum - what's the deal? 

BRIAN!!!

[TightEnd]

We have a poster...Brian Wilson/WSOPin06 who has made winning with 74 offsuit into an artform

we thought he was a complete fish until he won a WSOP Bracelet in 2005

we still think he's a complete fish, but a talented complete fish

Best off playing tight and aggressive as you progress, the time for loosey goosey will come!

[Claw75]

ignore the 7 4 play, playing 4 7 is for players who know wot they are doing, (no offence)

Ha ha - don't worry - I had no intention of playing it!!!

[Heid]

I played it HU at the Cheesey game on Saturday, and came out with a FH<g>. HU is different though:)

It's a funny old hand, and it can garner some interesting results...if you are chipped up enough it's a hand to experiment with.

How did you do in the 10k Claire? I doubled up early on, then crashed and burned