Browsing question.

[RED-DOG]

I've noticed that the browser on my phone has an incognito setting for 'private' browsing.

How does this work, and why don't pedophiles, terrorists etc use it to avoid detection?

[Graham C]

It's so you can shop for presents for Mrs Red without her seeing your browsing history should she accidentally try and look.

It just doesn't save any history etc on your device. I would think criminals could and do use it but I think certain sites would still be flagged and IP addresses tracked where necessary.

[bobAlike]

Welcome back Red, glad to see you're posting again.

As Graham said, private browsing stops tracking the obvious things such as history, cookis etc.mit actually only stops this on the device you are using. Your ISP still knows what you're doing. The only way of trully being undetected is by not going on the Internet at all. Even the so called Dark Web can be traced to a certain degree.

[RED-DOG]

It's so you can shop for presents for Mrs Red without her seeing your browsing history should she accidentally try and look.

It just doesn't save any history etc on your device. I would think criminals could and do use it but I think certain sites would still be flagged and IP addresses tracked where necessary.

Thanks, but I'm curious now.

Why would sites that need to be flagged be allowed to remain open?

Why couldn't the baddies just drive down a street and use their phone to connect to the first unsecured network?

[Graham C]

It's so you can shop for presents for Mrs Red without her seeing your browsing history should she accidentally try and look.

It just doesn't save any history etc on your device. I would think criminals could and do use it but I think certain sites would still be flagged and IP addresses tracked where necessary.

Thanks, but I'm curious now.

Why would sites that need to be flagged be allowed to remain open?

Why couldn't the baddies just drive down a street and use their phone to connect to the first unsecured network?

I don't think it's easy to just take down illegal sites, they are often hosted in countries where they can get away with it.  Also, when they take one down, another will spring up in it's place - take The Pirate Bay for example, it took a lot of planning to finally raid the offices and take the servers etc but within a few days it was back up and running.

I don't think it's as easy as going to imaterrorist.org, log on and find out all the secrets, these sites are hidden and the people that run them know how to cover their tracks.  

You could drive down the street and join an unsecured network. You could sit in Starbucks or a pub and do the same, people probably do but some of it they'd probably not want to do in a public area.  For 99.9999999% of people this isn't really an issue, for the small part that it is, someone is probably watching already.

[lucky_scrote]

It's basically so that porn doesn't show up in your history. CTRL+SHIFT+N is a handy command for Chrome, so they say.

All it does though is stop the history being recorded on your device. However, your ISP still knows all so you have no protection visiting illegal sites. There are certainly ways around this so that you are completely anonymous, but you are treading water here if you don't know what you're completely doing. I only recently heard of the dark web where tons of illegal content is available. I'm not just talking about pedophilia. We are talking sites to purchase weapons, propaganda sites. The lot. Whichever site I found that had a discussion or forum regards the dark web (I think it was 2+2 actually) had a few people dig deep into the dark web and it seemed it scarred a lot of innocent people with what they could research and look at. It certainly ended my curiosity reading peoples TR's visiting the dark web.

Don't read the next line if you want to retain faith in humanity

Apparently you can purchase videos of people being murdered, and for a higher price you can even select the murder weapon etc.

FWIW I never have and never will go into the dark web, I'd rather not be scarred with what I see. I find it hard enough watching a documentary about Fred West.

[Marky147]

Like most here, I spend most of my days at the PC, but hadn't even heard about this 'deep web' until I watched Citizenfour, and only found out about 'Silk Road' when it was closed down.

[Graham C]

Whilst the dark web does contain pretty bad stuff, you won't find it by logging on to it and just doing the equivalent of Googling "people being murdered" (for example, using Lucky's line) - it won't turn up anything, it's not that simple.  You'll need to know the url and even if you knew/know it once, it doesn't mean that it will be there next time you go to it.  Domain names aren't as simple as thew's.silkroad.com and they can shift around.    Silk Road (again, example) moved around a fair bit. 

The dark web also contains plenty of legit stuff, it's not all for illegal transactions.  I'm not saying that if you look hard you won't find anything, you will of course, but it's not as simple as the posts above make it sound and you wont be scarred for life just for logging on.  That said, you're probably only likely to log on either if you want something dodgy or are curious.

[titaniumbean]

It's so you can shop for presents for Mrs Red without her seeing your browsing history should she accidentally try and look.

It just doesn't save any history etc on your device. I would think criminals could and do use it but I think certain sites would still be flagged and IP addresses tracked where necessary.

Thanks, but I'm curious now.

Why would sites that need to be flagged be allowed to remain open?

Why couldn't the baddies just drive down a street and use their phone to connect to the first unsecured network?

because the US hack everything ldo.


in reality actual criminals especially the ones they want to catch don't use modern communication methods as they are not secure.


the dark web is messed up, slow and scary.

[RED-DOG]

It's so you can shop for presents for Mrs Red without her seeing your browsing history should she accidentally try and look.

It just doesn't save any history etc on your device. I would think criminals could and do use it but I think certain sites would still be flagged and IP addresses tracked where necessary.

Thanks, but I'm curious now.

Why would sites that need to be flagged be allowed to remain open?

Why couldn't the baddies just drive down a street and use their phone to connect to the first unsecured network?

because the US hack everything ldo.


in reality actual criminals especially the ones they want to catch don't use modern communication methods as they are not secure.


the dark web is messed up, slow and scary.

Yes, but even though the US would know what you were looking at, they wouldn't kniw who was doing the looking.

[titaniumbean]

that depends on how much they care....

[RED-DOG]

So does my laptop / phone identify itself even if I connect from someone else's internet?

[Marky147]

So does my laptop / phone identify itself even if I connect from someone else's internet?

Going on the Snowden docu, they can do pretty much anything they want, and not much isn't possible.

[RED-DOG]

So does my laptop / phone identify itself even if I connect from someone else's internet?

Going on the Snowden docu, they can do pretty much anything they want, and not much isn't possible.

I'm not taking the piss here Mark, but is that supposed to be an answer to this question cos it doesn't make sense to me. 

[titaniumbean]

So does my laptop / phone identify itself even if I connect from someone else's internet?

Going on the Snowden docu, they can do pretty much anything they want, and not much isn't possible.

I'm not taking the piss here Mark, but is that supposed to be an answer to this question cos it doesn't make sense to me. 

in answer to your question yes there are individual identifiers in alot of things.

they also have the ability to monitor/use items that we would consider unusable ie because they are turned off or because we've never considered using an item for a different than designed use.

phone wise they have the sims hacked for everyone ever, they have full control of the phones they want, can for example turn on your webcam without you knowing its on and monitor you that way. there is a famous picture of one of the douschebags profiteering off of this and he does an interview in front of his laptop and you can see some of his high tech defenses, ie a square of paper over the webcam at all times to 'protect himself from that'.


so yeh what marky said, it really is bloody clever some of the things they have worked out, whilst at the same time given they are all so corrupted we're all under it!