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[tikay]

There is no bigger - in monetary terms - industry than Poker that does NOT have a govering body. It's a truly bizarre thing, & will eventually end in tears.

Non-poker Corporate Sponsors have bucketloads of money to invest in sponsorship, but it won't come Poker's way while everyone does their own thimg, & we don't even have a standard set of rules for the game.

It makes me sad, but it won't change in my lifetime, & there are more deserving things to worry about outside of poker.

[ariston]

Cant believe the feeble excuse about not being able to see his cards properly. Isnt that the excuse you are supposed to use after getting knocked out? tikay?

[RED-DOG]

it won't change in my lifetime

Why not? you saw us go from bronze age to space age

[Graham C]

 

[Karabiner]

it won't change in my lifetime

Why not? you saw us go from bronze age to space age

And I thought that I had been young and cool for a long time.....

[jezza777]

Why is he paying big blind every hand ? Once a round surley?

[I KNOW IT]

You make a good point about there being the lack of a general set of rules Tikay. I really think that a lot of cardroom staff implement certain rules, without really understanding why.

#1   e.g Blinding off every hand after they've missed a certain amount of hands(which depends of size of £ buy-in , bigger ££ more hands you can miss )
Their reasoning is to stop the big stacks going to the bar and not play any  hands so they dont get involved.
reality= The big stacks could sit in their seat and pass every hand blind if that was their true intention.

#2 All cards must be shown after the river including the losing hand. This is to stop any collusion.
reality= If there was to be any collusion (passing of chips) this would happen pre flop. on the flop ,or on the turn.Definately not after the river.

There are many more like these examples, but I do not totally blame the cardroom staff as they really dont know better.
I posted a message on the Dusk Till Dawn topic asking Rob to genuinely consider sending his Cardroom Director/Manager to America during one of their festivals for a week on a sort of busmans holiday, to see how they operate. Anyone who's been knows what im talking about as they run things on a different level.
This in my opinion would help put his club a cut above from the rest.

Casino's always like to use the Gaming Board as an excuse as an when it suits, but they only offer guidelines in house rules as im aware, because in most cardrooms smallprint it states " The management can change the rules in the intrest of the game"

This posting is in no way a dig at the cardroom staff of this country, as I have a great relationship with most.
Its about how far we are behind in this country with an ever expanding industry.
And its about time something was done before its too late.
Rant over.

[I KNOW IT]

Just read this elsewhere.
Borgarta Main Event: $10k
   Ivey Takes A Nap?
Log:   Matt Matros was overheard at his table mentioning that Phil Ivey has headed back up to his room for a nap.  He is not eliminated, his chips are still at the table.  With the slow blind structure and $25,000 in starting chips, there is plenty of time for play later.

He returned 3 hours later to continue playing

Say no more.

[tikay]

Great points made there by IKI.

String betting is another rule that everyone gets excited about, but they don't know WHAT they get excited for, except maybe for the chance to seem knowledgeable.

When did anyone ever see an advantage gained by a string bet?

When I make a large bet, I always cut the stack to make it easy for the Dealer & everyone to see how much it is, so I generally cut the chips into stacks of 5, as they do in America. At Notts the other night, I moved 19k into the middle, but made the mistake of cutting the first 5k before the whole stack had "grounded" & 6 geezers - 4 of them not in the hand! - all shouted "string bet"! They were, under the Rules, quite right of course, & I did not argue, but I did have a little smile to myself, & the 2 guys still in the hand were well pleased, as they had exploited the Rules to get the Turn Card cheap. Was I trying to gain advantage? Was I heck, I wanted to get them off their hands as I was on a draw. Were they taking advantage? Of course they were. I don't believe anyone ever gained advantage by string betting, except the small-minded who like to show their knowledge, but not understanding, of the rules.

[tikay]

Why is he paying big blind every hand ? Once a round surley?

Nope, he had to Post the BB EVERY hand, & whats more, three of the Table kicked up a fuss to ensure he did. Lovely peeps, poker players, eh?

[tikay]

Cant believe the feeble excuse about not being able to see his cards properly. Isnt that the excuse you are supposed to use after getting knocked out? tikay?

I'm in training to bust out as quick as you do Ariston, I'm doing well, have busted out on the 3rd hand twice, so nearly there.

Welcome back by the way, we have missed you. When you going away again?

[tikay]

it won't change in my lifetime

Why not? you saw us go from bronze age to space age

Very funny 9-7 Man.

[Yogi-Bear]

WEll Just For I Know It, I'm gonna bring up his 2 questions at the Grosvenor Rules Meeting on Wednesday 1st feb, if I don't fall asleep that is first. Ill also bring up the string betting rule. In 10 years I've never seen a string bet. Just people incorrectly betting. But try to tell the more "Experienced" players that. HEHEHEHE. They just want to use it to get one over the newbies.

Ill report back to you all Wed or Thursday night after I return home.

Yogi

[Ironside]

the bb every hand if missing for 3 hands is stupid and the only time i ever saw someone call it there was an all mighty fuss as the person went as it was announced last 3 hands and then on the last hand his blind was taken when he got back to seat he found chips missing and righfull wanted his chips back from the guy who won the last pot and was adament that the chips were his as once there in the pot they are in the pot

[Yogi-Bear]

Had an interesting rules meeting.

Never thought I would say that a rules meeting was interesting. But I digress. Progress is being made.

1. Scrapping of the 3 hands/9 hands missing rule. Big and Small Blinds will be posted as and when they are due. End Of story.

2. Cards don't have to be shown at showdown unless a player wants to see them. Or a supervisor of course. However If you are called then you must show your cards as that is what people are calling you for. To see your cards.

There are a few other minor cosmetic changes too. This may well take a month to implement, but the changes are coming. Perhaps when they are due to take effect I'll post and remind everyone.

Yogi