England cricket team

[arbboy]

Is the only reason the Aussies are faves for Lords test because they think the pitch will do more and offer a bit to the Aussie quicks?

Seems very strange to me that England have absolutely torn the Aussies apart in Cardiff but aren't faves at Lords. I know the wicket will be different, but still seems a bit silly. Before I wade in, am I missing something obvious?

We should all wade in, it's a 10% arb at the moment :-) Aussies only marginal favs tbf. They came into the series as pretty hot favourites, i guess one solitary result isn't enough to change favouritism. Pretty much everything went right for Eng, and everything wrong for Aussies. will it be repeatable for Eng? given the book % at the moment you're unlikely to get a bigger price than is available atm

I keep hearing this 'everything went right for England' but their record wicket taker only took 3 wickets and their record batsman had 2 failures yet they still hosed up?  

[nellberg]

Is the only reason the Aussies are faves for Lords test because they think the pitch will do more and offer a bit to the Aussie quicks?

Seems very strange to me that England have absolutely torn the Aussies apart in Cardiff but aren't faves at Lords. I know the wicket will be different, but still seems a bit silly. Before I wade in, am I missing something obvious?

We should all wade in, it's a 10% arb at the moment :-) Aussies only marginal favs tbf. They came into the series as pretty hot favourites, i guess one solitary result isn't enough to change favouritism. Pretty much everything went right for Eng, and everything wrong for Aussies. will it be repeatable for Eng? given the book % at the moment you're unlikely to get a bigger price than is available atm

I keep hearing this 'everything went right for England' but their record wicket taker only took 3 wickets and their record batsman had 2 failures yet they still hosed up?  

I wouldn't place too much emphasis on "record wicket taker, record batsman". Steve Smith's got 11,000 runs to go to be their top runscorer in history but he's no.1 batsman in the world atm. Root's our best batsman at the moment, him getting dropped on 0 was a huge turning point. Anderson only took 3 wickets but played his role as part of the bowling group. Depends what group you're in, the "momentum" angle so you'd be pro england's chances, or just putting it down to a bad game and thinking class will tell and staying pro australia's chances.

[vegaslover]

Lords is a much quicker wicket and England's batting is awful against express pace.

[TightEnd]

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[Ant040689]

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Well I'm definitely eagle-eyed. 

[KarmaDope]

Naturally got 6/6 with no restarts.

Which is good, I guess, as I am an umpire lol!

[MereNovice]

More deep insight from Botham this morning:

"It could be a good toss to lose".

[TightEnd]

slow low pitches are fine if you win the toss and bat

i think most fans, irrespective of affiliation, would like to see more pace and bounce. makes for better matches

[AndrewT]

Draw currently 6/4 - has to be a decent bet as unless the pitch breaks up I can't see them taking 20 wickets. Joe Root could bat till September.

[TightEnd]

Its already a dry pitch with footmarks

Australia will take 20 wickets, scoreboard pressure, Nathan Lyon

the draw will trade too short for the next two days

[Ironside]

Draw currently 6/4 - has to be a decent bet as unless the pitch breaks up I can't see them taking 20 wickets. Joe Root could bat till September.

no he cant as the pitch is needed for other games before then

[MereNovice]

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[buzzharvey22]

Draw currently 6/4 - has to be a decent bet as unless the pitch breaks up I can't see them taking 20 wickets. Joe Root could bat till September.

I think thats a terrible price.

Not that easy to bat 2nd/4th when you pretty much know your batting for a draw.

[The Camel]

Its already a dry pitch with footmarks

Australia will take 20 wickets, scoreboard pressure, Nathan Lyon

the draw will trade too short for the next two days

*DISCLAIMER* I KNOW THE SQUARE ROOT OF FUCK ALL ABOUT CRICKET

When I was a kid, every bloody test match seemed to end in a draw. A 5 match series invariably ended 1-0 or 1-1.

What is the reason why test matches never seem to end as a draw these days?

(I believe they replace some time lost by weather breaks these days, correct? Is this the sole/main reason?)

[verndog158]

Its already a dry pitch with footmarks

Australia will take 20 wickets, scoreboard pressure, Nathan Lyon

the draw will trade too short for the next two days

*DISCLAIMER* I KNOW THE SQUARE ROOT OF FUCK ALL ABOUT CRICKET

When I was a kid, every bloody test match seemed to end in a draw. A 5 match series invariably ended 1-0 or 1-1.

What is the reason why test matches never seem to end as a draw these days?

(I believe they replace some time lost by weather breaks these days, correct? Is this the sole/main reason?)

just a much faster game, meaning the game traveks at a much faster rate. in the 80s, 230 runs in a day was good going, now 320-350 is the norm.