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« on: May 17, 2015, 12:38:32 AM »

Two players are all in, one on this table, and one on the other.  I cover them both!   This hand is a bit unusual, blinds are 2k/4k and the ante is 800.

I think this must be a fold, but will leave me on 264 chips and I'll be forced all in next 2 or 3 hands.  $200 for 9th,  $1400 for 1st.  I am next in the big blind, though not sure it matters much with that ante.

PokerStars Hand #135372724180: Tournament #1223870408, $80.40+$1.60 USD Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2015/05/16 23:30:01 WET [2015/05/16 18:30:01 ET]
Table '1223870408 2' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: ment4l1st (216 in chips)
Seat 2: bullstopper (1064 in chips)

Seat 4: QOTSAfan (9764 in chips)
Seat 5: sleepy_seven (56969 in chips)
Seat 6: hs_slayer88 (20482 in chips)
ment4l1st: posts the ante 216 and is all-in
bullstopper: posts the ante 800
QOTSAfan: posts the ante 800
sleepy_seven: posts the ante 800
hs_slayer88: posts the ante 800
hs_slayer88: posts small blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bullstopper [ three clubs]
bullstopper: folds

QOTSAfan: raises 6964 to 8964 and is all-in
sleepy_seven has timed out
sleepy_seven: folds
sleepy_seven is sitting out
hs_slayer88: folds
Uncalled bet (6964) returned to QOTSAfan
sleepy_seven has returned

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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2015, 10:58:22 AM »

This must be an easy fold for everything bar real real real good starting hands, KT93 cannot play both sides of the board so you're either scooping or going bust and that's really high variance when one or both can have hi/lo hands and split whilst you could bust right now instead of laddering to 8th. I would take my blind chances with the next hand and hopefully end up with one that plays lo because theoretically you will bust less often as you can split.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2015, 12:37:32 PM »

This was one of those tourneys where people have been surviving on the bubble for a while which has caused the stack sizes.  I have been all in at least twice, and guess it must be ten times in total.

As it was they both bust and I'd have scooped with 2 pair.  I had a very similar hand on the final table too, where I lost something like two thirds of my chips folding when somebody was all in.  I think that was high only too.  

I don't think the answer can be call with real gold only.  if they both survive I'd be in a really bad spot if I call or fold.  If they go bust, it doesn't matter much if I call or fold.  I beat them both either way.  Thinking this all through in 10 seconds on an already ruined time bank was too much for me.  

7th to 9th all got the same, I think 6th was $280.  1st 1400, 2nd 1000, 3rd 700 or something similar.

Edit.  I think it was 6 handed.  I think this should be a very important spot as getting it wrong could be a huge mistake.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2015, 01:15:01 PM »

I don't think you can fold
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2015, 01:38:36 PM »

When I say real real real good starting hands I don't actually know what I'd even choose! I would probably fold everything tbh after thinking a bit more about this. You chop with villain you're both forced all in anyway next hand anyway, you fold and villain scoops yeah no problem its a reverse and you are both AI next hand anyway. I think in my simple mind a simulation of this would most likely see you getting itm more often by folding than going 3way, especially because the villain on the other table is going to be dealing with a multiway pot for survival as well.
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