Gay Cake affair

[DMorgan]

lol Mark sometimes you do try a little too hard to be contrarian

You know exactly why travelling fans aren't allowed to get tanked up in pubs full of home supporters

[MintTrav]

They didn't refuse because the customer was gay. They refused because they were asked to take a positive action in support of something they didn't support.

[Kmac84]

Typical response by the DUP MLA. 

I'm not so sure I agree with the judgement to be honest, sexual orientation like disibility is protected under the equalities act, to me the bakers  haven't refused to take the custom all they have done is refuse to share the message they didn't agree wth, I don't see that as discriminatory. 

I think this could have been handled better. 

Sure there was a case a few years back were a guy who owned a B&B refused to let a gay couple stay at his residence.  This was more discriminatory than refusing to ice a cake with a partcular message. 

[Doobs]

They didn't refuse because the customer was gay. They refused because they were asked to take a positive action in support of something they didn't support.

I find it hard to believe they had no idea of the sexual orientation of the fella asking for a gay rights slogan on a cake.   Yet they are today claiming that is the case.  Given I find that so hard to believe, I am struggling to accept their word that it was just the message that caused them to refuse custom.  I haven't read the judgement, but assume the judge hasn't accepted that this action was only because of the slogan.  

[tikay]

This is the bakery in question, I believe.

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[bookiebasher]

This is the bakery in question, I believe.

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Haven't you got a view on it Tony ?

[OverTheBorder]

This is the bakery in question, I believe.

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They going to add a small star after that moto?

*only applies to god fearing hetrosexuals

[DungBeetle]

great decision.

as for the lolworthy guy saying 'you can't have a hierarchy of rights - this decision puts gay rights above those of religious freedoms' then my answer would be 'of course you can. believe in whatever fairytale you like, but don't discriminate against people, bellend'

If they strongly disagree with it then fine, but there are ways of going about it : 'look lads, that's not really something we can support, but Bakery X down the road would definitely make it for you'

I agree with your logic and that of DMorgan in this thread.  However, I think using "fairytale" for people who believe in religion isn't very nice either.  Religion is important to lots of people over the globe and I don't think you need to belittle their faith to make your point.

[kukushkin88]

great decision.

as for the lolworthy guy saying 'you can't have a hierarchy of rights - this decision puts gay rights above those of religious freedoms' then my answer would be 'of course you can. believe in whatever fairytale you like, but don't discriminate against people, bellend'

If they strongly disagree with it then fine, but there are ways of going about it : 'look lads, that's not really something we can support, but Bakery X down the road would definitely make it for you'

I agree with your logic and that of DMorgan in this thread.  However, I think using "fairytale" for people who believe in religion isn't very nice either.  Religion is important to lots of people over the globe and I don't think you need to belittle their faith to make your point.

Probably best if the Hitch explains why it's OK....

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/unreasonablefaith/2011/12/the-20-best-christopher-hitchens-quotes/

[DungBeetle]

What's okay?    Of course it's fine to not agree with religion and think that those who have faith are misguided.  My point is I don't see the point of belittling people's faith.  Seems a simple enough concept.  If Islamic guys (for example) want to pray several times a day I don't see why you would want to poke fun at them.

[Karabiner]

This is the bakery in question, I believe.

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Haven't you got a view on it Tony ?

And while you're at it you might as well tell us where you stand on gay adoption too.

 

[DaveShoelace]

This is the bakery in question, I believe.

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Haven't you got a view on it Tony ?

And while you're at it you might as well tell us where you stand on gay adoption too.

 

Chuck in Thatcher, the Royals, who you voted for, your favourite ever interview and whether you prefer iPhones to Android while your at it please.

[Marky147]

This is the bakery in question, I believe.

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Haven't you got a view on it Tony ?

And while you're at it you might as well tell us where you stand on gay adoption too.

 

Chuck in Thatcher, the Royals, who you voted for, your favourite ever interview and whether you prefer iPhones to Android while your at it please.

[DMorgan]

This has gotta be up there with the best

[mulhuzz]

great decision.

as for the lolworthy guy saying 'you can't have a hierarchy of rights - this decision puts gay rights above those of religious freedoms' then my answer would be 'of course you can. believe in whatever fairytale you like, but don't discriminate against people, bellend'

If they strongly disagree with it then fine, but there are ways of going about it : 'look lads, that's not really something we can support, but Bakery X down the road would definitely make it for you'

I agree with your logic and that of DMorgan in this thread.  However, I think using "fairytale" for people who believe in religion isn't very nice either.  Religion is important to lots of people over the globe and I don't think you need to belittle their faith to make your point.

disagree. it's a divisive thing and it deserves to be known as such. People can believe in what they want, but that save them from being fools.