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[MC]

Ok interesting thoughts.

I went for 4b/call because we deny opponent 1 realizing his equity, we have huge ICM leverage over both of them, opponent 2 can be FOS plenty here but with position can put us in tough spots post flop on certain boards.

I was thinking we would be going big but I guess maybe giving opponent 2 the chance to peel with the stack:pot ratio this would give us is too advantageous to him/his range when he flats.

4b/f obv isn't an option vs described villain, so shove and call are interesting.

FML that I put easy 4b/call and BITB thinks it's terrible

[pleno1]

All of you reasons from you first paragraph are why I like to 4bf. I really doubt he will 5bet shove worse than queens. He was described as very good in op not a complete maniac. His loose aggressive side will be enough for him to 3b wider than most but we're on a bubble and he's 3/13 he can't just rip it in wide at all here.

[cambridgealex]

It's not bubble its 11 left, 13 paid.

[TheFruitbat]

Thanks peeps.

Firstly, will just say that opponent 2 was Tim Chung, think most people ITT know this by now anyway.

I decided to Jam in this spot after a pretty decent tank and this is why I came to this conclusion, hopefully you can all say which play would have been better and why my thought process and choice in this hand was wrong so I can learn from it. Pretty sure I haven't been in a spot like this before with such a big chip lead and still trying to learn the various ICM situations as quickly as possible.

My initial thought was to give both players a range.

Opponent 1 I thought was pretty capped, literally thought this exact player would 3bet QQ+ 100%. So pairs like maybe 55-JJ suited broadways, AQ/AJ etc. Going to put AK in his range too.

Thought Tim's range would be JJ+/AK (maybe TT) for value and gave him some 3bet squeeze's, so lets say AJo/KQo, the hand's I'd probably choose (right or wrong) to squeeze with in this spot. Even though I thought he wouldn't be going nuts here, it felt like a really good spot to squeeze being able to put a decent amount of pressure on both me and especially opponent 1 being IP in the hand. Just for the record, in years past I think Tim would have a much wider 3bet range but my read here was that he wouldn't be getting super OOL here but would have some bluffs because it's a great spot and I'm sure he would like to be kind of balanced vs me.

Next I saw that the pot was at ~14BBs and both stacks had ~55BBs. Tim having like ~50BBs back after his 6.5bbs 3bet.

Now Is the time I think my thought process might be flawed and would like feedback on. I expected opponent 1 being passive to call a jam 0% of the time.

Given the fact that Opponent 1 NEVER has AA/KK and we block Tim form having some combos of AA/KK and the fact we have such a strong hand, if we rip we can pick up 14BBs a pretty high% of the time and even put real ICM pressure on Tim to fold AK/JJ or maybe even QQ.

Where as 4bet calling might induce Tim to shove AK/QQ/JJ and we have to get into a flip I didn't want to take obv. 4bet folding Akcc I thought would be really bad.
So in my head I completely ruled out any kind of 4bet and it was call or Jam.

So by ripping I was trying to put the pressure back on him to even maybe have him fold some value hands high up in his range, and if he did have the miracle KK (34% equity) or AA (12% equity) and called it's not like we are dead even though it's awful for us obv, I thought the amount of times we pick up the 14BBs in the middle, it was worth the risk knowing that Tim could easily have a deece 3bet bluff range being as strong a player as he is, coupled with the fact he would know how bad it is to take a flip with his stack at this stage with the remaining field being kind of weak.

Lastly, I realised if we did get called AND lose. We would still have just under the tournament average and would still have a stack with decent utility and a strong chance of continuing and getting a high finish.

So, there we go.

Flame my thought process by all means. Happy to learn.

[pleno1]

It's not bubble its 11 left, 13 paid.

i mean i still consider this the bubble.

[pleno1]

very much doubt tim would jam ak or jj here if we 4bet. i do think its possible he flats some hands to our 4bet, which is perfectly fine by me thus think 4bf is probably the best option here.

[TheFruitbat]

So 4B/fold is best? Only if Tim calls the 4bet with JJ and AK? If not call is best?

It was just a tough spot and I went with the play I knew was +EV as I didn't want to call or 4bet fold such a strong hand. So is my total thought process wrong there? Or should I say which are the parts that are flawed?