Devastating news , what would you do ?....Tunisia

[The Camel]

This is why I think we should still be going to Tunisia

http://news.sky.com/story/1509980/tunisia-terror-attack-new-footage-of-rampage

Tourists stop going, fellas like the one taking this film will lose their jobs/livlihoods.

Not really fair is it?

[I KNOW IT]

My elderly parents are currently in Tunisia , they flew there on Thursday.
I can tell you it was a very worrying 24hours on Friday as we could not locate them and no one knew exactly which resort  they were staying. . Thankfully on Saturday  my sister managed to find out from Thomas Cook they were in a different resort.

I called home yesterday to ask if they were coming home early but they said they are staying until the end of the holiday.  There is a big security presence around the hotels and have been told to also stay inside the hotel . The army is also giving everyone  an escort to the airport .

Truthfully me and my family wish they would get back on the first plane home and won't stop worrying until they are back in the UK.

 

[bobAlike]

Glad to hear they are ok Craig.

[I KNOW IT]

Glad to hear they are ok Craig.

Thanks mate

[TightEnd]

this may be interesting for you Lee

How Tunisia became a key target for terrorists http://specc.ie/1QZwabV 

[Doobs]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Tunisia appears to have been safer than Mauritius, though probably isn't right now, though I am still not convinced there is much in it. 

People are significantly more likely to be murdered in the USA and Thailand.  The likes of Brazil, Trinidad, South Africa and Jamaica have way higher murder rates.

Quite surprised how dangerous Belize is, as I have banged on about what a great place it is to visit before.  I have bagged quite an assortment of countries with murder rates 10 x higher than Tunisia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

Despits the high murder rate you are still 10 x more likely to get killed in a car accident in Thailand.  No surprises for me that Vietnam has such lethal roads either.  I am fairly sure Egypt needs a recount though; the drivers there were barking when I visited, half of them were driving without lights at night to save petrol and the functional seatbelt rate appeared to be notably low. Of course people are much more likely to die in traffic accidents than murders in Tunisia too.

And for those that take the taxi rather than the tube.

http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/risk/transporttrav.html

You are 10 x more likely to die in a car than in a train per mile travelled.  Maybe something to consider for those of you who don't want to expose your familes to unnecessary risks?  It is also probably best to get a hotel near the airport if travelling somewhere like Tunisia to avoid the road miles.

If you thought London was worth avoiding because of the high murder rate, you are going to have to give Prague, Amsterdam, Glasgow and Riga a miss. 

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/nov/30/new-york-crime-free-day-deadliest-cities-worldwide

I wouldn't recomment Caracas for a peaceful holiday no matter what you heard about it on Gregory's girl.

Of course you can forget all this lolevidence and just go with your emotions

[Woodsey]

I honestly couldn't give a fuck about any of that, it's more about a gut feeling at any moment in time. Stats and maths can fuck off in spots like this...

[George2Loose]

I honestly couldn't give a fuck about any of that, it's more about a gut feeling at any moment in time. Stats and maths can fuck off in spots like this...

[The Camel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Tunisia appears to have been safer than Mauritius, though probably isn't right now, though I am still not convinced there is much in it. 

People are significantly more likely to be murdered in the USA and Thailand.  The likes of Brazil, Trinidad, South Africa and Jamaica have way higher murder rates.

Quite surprised how dangerous Belize is, as I have banged on about what a great place it is to visit before.  I have bagged quite an assortment of countries with murder rates 10 x higher than Tunisia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

Despits the high murder rate you are still 10 x more likely to get killed in a car accident in Thailand.  No surprises for me that Vietnam has such lethal roads either.  I am fairly sure Egypt needs a recount though; the drivers there were barking when I visited, half of them were driving without lights at night to save petrol and the functional seatbelt rate appeared to be notably low. Of course people are much more likely to die in traffic accidents than murders in Tunisia too.

And for those that take the taxi rather than the tube.

http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/risk/transporttrav.html

You are 10 x more likely to die in a car than in a train per mile travelled.  Maybe something to consider for those of you who don't want to expose your familes to unnecessary risks?  It is also probably best to get a hotel near the airport if travelling somewhere like Tunisia to avoid the road miles.

If you thought London was worth avoiding because of the high murder rate, you are going to have to give Prague, Amsterdam, Glasgow and Riga a miss. 

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/nov/30/new-york-crime-free-day-deadliest-cities-worldwide

I wouldn't recomment Caracas for a peaceful holiday no matter what you heard about it on Gregory's girl.

Of course you can forget all this lolevidence and just go with your emotions

The problem with these stats are they obviously include "no go" areas of countries which tourists are very unlikely to visit.

As people correctly said when I mentioned how dangerous Vegas was, if you stay on the strip it is probably one of the safest places in the world.

Venture downtown, just a block or two from Fremont Street you are suddenly massively at risk.

[aaron1867]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Tunisia appears to have been safer than Mauritius, though probably isn't right now, though I am still not convinced there is much in it. 

People are significantly more likely to be murdered in the USA and Thailand.  The likes of Brazil, Trinidad, South Africa and Jamaica have way higher murder rates.

Quite surprised how dangerous Belize is, as I have banged on about what a great place it is to visit before.  I have bagged quite an assortment of countries with murder rates 10 x higher than Tunisia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

Despits the high murder rate you are still 10 x more likely to get killed in a car accident in Thailand.  No surprises for me that Vietnam has such lethal roads either.  I am fairly sure Egypt needs a recount though; the drivers there were barking when I visited, half of them were driving without lights at night to save petrol and the functional seatbelt rate appeared to be notably low. Of course people are much more likely to die in traffic accidents than murders in Tunisia too.

And for those that take the taxi rather than the tube.

http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/risk/transporttrav.html

You are 10 x more likely to die in a car than in a train per mile travelled.  Maybe something to consider for those of you who don't want to expose your familes to unnecessary risks?  It is also probably best to get a hotel near the airport if travelling somewhere like Tunisia to avoid the road miles.

If you thought London was worth avoiding because of the high murder rate, you are going to have to give Prague, Amsterdam, Glasgow and Riga a miss. 

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/nov/30/new-york-crime-free-day-deadliest-cities-worldwide

I wouldn't recomment Caracas for a peaceful holiday no matter what you heard about it on Gregory's girl.

Of course you can forget all this lolevidence and just go with your emotions

Do you actually think this is relevant?

It's quite clear that British are targets in Tunisia, rather than other countries you have mentioned. Yet comparing different types of deaths?!

Also, like BBC, ITV and Sky have quoted the foreign office  "We cannot rule out further attacks in Tunisia"

[Doobs]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Tunisia appears to have been safer than Mauritius, though probably isn't right now, though I am still not convinced there is much in it. 

People are significantly more likely to be murdered in the USA and Thailand.  The likes of Brazil, Trinidad, South Africa and Jamaica have way higher murder rates.

Quite surprised how dangerous Belize is, as I have banged on about what a great place it is to visit before.  I have bagged quite an assortment of countries with murder rates 10 x higher than Tunisia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

Despits the high murder rate you are still 10 x more likely to get killed in a car accident in Thailand.  No surprises for me that Vietnam has such lethal roads either.  I am fairly sure Egypt needs a recount though; the drivers there were barking when I visited, half of them were driving without lights at night to save petrol and the functional seatbelt rate appeared to be notably low. Of course people are much more likely to die in traffic accidents than murders in Tunisia too.

And for those that take the taxi rather than the tube.

http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/risk/transporttrav.html

You are 10 x more likely to die in a car than in a train per mile travelled.  Maybe something to consider for those of you who don't want to expose your familes to unnecessary risks?  It is also probably best to get a hotel near the airport if travelling somewhere like Tunisia to avoid the road miles.

If you thought London was worth avoiding because of the high murder rate, you are going to have to give Prague, Amsterdam, Glasgow and Riga a miss. 

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/nov/30/new-york-crime-free-day-deadliest-cities-worldwide

I wouldn't recomment Caracas for a peaceful holiday no matter what you heard about it on Gregory's girl.

Of course you can forget all this lolevidence and just go with your emotions

The problem with these stats are they obviously include "no go" areas of countries which tourists are very unlikely to visit.

As people correctly said when I mentioned how dangerous Vegas was, if you stay on the strip it is probably one of the safest places in the world.

Venture downtown, just a block or two from Fremont Street you are suddenly massively at risk.

True, but even then murder rates are a lot lower than death rates on the roads, so if you travel by car to avoid the risk of getting killed on a train/tube by a terrorist you are likely to be making a mistake.

People can do way better than avoiding Belieze/Thailand/Tunisia by stopping smoking, heavy drinking and not eating so much bad food.

The risks from murder or terrorism are going to be very small compared to normal life risks unless you pitch up in somewhere like Syria or Afganistan for your annual hols.  

[MANTIS01]

This is why I think we should still be going to Tunisia

http://news.sky.com/story/1509980/tunisia-terror-attack-new-footage-of-rampage

Tourists stop going, fellas like the one taking this film will lose their jobs/livlihoods.

Not really fair is it?

How many Brits get greased on the beach before Abdul the waiter is no longer ur priority?

Interesting stats about car accidents in Timbuktu but frequency of holidaymaker massacre is kinda more relevant when flicking through the brochure and selecting ur package deal.

[Doobs]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Tunisia appears to have been safer than Mauritius, though probably isn't right now, though I am still not convinced there is much in it. 

People are significantly more likely to be murdered in the USA and Thailand.  The likes of Brazil, Trinidad, South Africa and Jamaica have way higher murder rates.

Quite surprised how dangerous Belize is, as I have banged on about what a great place it is to visit before.  I have bagged quite an assortment of countries with murder rates 10 x higher than Tunisia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

Despits the high murder rate you are still 10 x more likely to get killed in a car accident in Thailand.  No surprises for me that Vietnam has such lethal roads either.  I am fairly sure Egypt needs a recount though; the drivers there were barking when I visited, half of them were driving without lights at night to save petrol and the functional seatbelt rate appeared to be notably low. Of course people are much more likely to die in traffic accidents than murders in Tunisia too.

And for those that take the taxi rather than the tube.

http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/risk/transporttrav.html

You are 10 x more likely to die in a car than in a train per mile travelled.  Maybe something to consider for those of you who don't want to expose your familes to unnecessary risks?  It is also probably best to get a hotel near the airport if travelling somewhere like Tunisia to avoid the road miles.

If you thought London was worth avoiding because of the high murder rate, you are going to have to give Prague, Amsterdam, Glasgow and Riga a miss. 

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/nov/30/new-york-crime-free-day-deadliest-cities-worldwide

I wouldn't recomment Caracas for a peaceful holiday no matter what you heard about it on Gregory's girl.

Of course you can forget all this lolevidence and just go with your emotions

Do you actually think this is relevant?

It's quite clear that British are targets in Tunisia, rather than other countries you have mentioned. Yet comparing different types of deaths?!

Also, like BBC, ITV and Sky have quoted the foreign office  "We cannot rule out further attacks in Tunisia"

Of course it is relevant.  The fact people don't get relative risks is no surprise. 

So have the foreign office ruled out further attacks anywhere else the World?  Thought not.

[aaron1867]

I believe this thread was regarding Tunisia. Must have been my mistake.

[Woodsey]

I believe this thread was regarding Tunisia. Must have been my mistake.

No it's about stats and probability mate, gamblers can't help it lol