poker ruling ... one chip calling an all in.

[Checkitdown]

Any dealers / players please help to solve this argument.

During a live cash game in a casino ..
 pre flop player 1 goes all in for £67  ...
Player 2 raises to £140
Folds round to player 6 who doesn't realise player 2 has also gone all in and he throws a £25 chip in to call player 1's bet with out announcing anything .
Dealer now announces that total bet is £140 ... player 6 says that he didn't realise that someone had retained and he only intended to call the £67 all in .

What is the correct rule of action for player 6 and does he have any options

Thanks in advance .

[KarmaDope]

He either calls the £140 or forfeits the £25 and folds his hand.

[Tal]

He either calls the £140 or forfeits the £25 and folds his hand.

This.

[verndog158]

He either calls the £140 or forfeits the £25 and folds his hand.

Yeah this for sure

[buzzharvey22]

He either calls the £140 or forfeits the £25 and folds his hand.

Yerp, and gets a little reminder about watching the action etc

[redsimon]

If he threw a £100 chip in would he be bound to leave it in or £67 of it?

[tikay]

Any dealers / players please help to solve this argument.

During a live cash game in a casino ..
 pre flop player 1 goes all in for £67  ...
Player 2 raises to £140
Folds round to player 6 who doesn't realise player 2 has also gone all in and he throws a £25 chip in to call player 1's bet with out announcing anything .
Dealer now announces that total bet is £140 ... player 6 says that he didn't realise that someone had retained and he only intended to call the £67 all in .

What is the correct rule of action for player 6 and does he have any options

Thanks in advance .

Yes, pay more attention in future.

[tikay]

If he threw a £100 chip in would he be bound to leave it in or £67 of it?

Leave it in, if natural justice is to be served.

It counts as a call, & the bet was £140, so he can forfeit the £100 or put another £40 in.

[SuuPRlim]

jesus let the man take his £25 back, it's very obviously not an angle (unless it's a very advanced one where he's  going to wait until after the hand then if he wins the £140 say nothing and if he loses claim he didn't notice)

Obv tell him not to go throwing chips in without knowing what the bet is, cos that's a little dumb but mistakes happen.

[tikay]

jesus let the man take his £25 back, it's very obviously not an angle (unless it's a very advanced one where he's  going to wait until after the hand then if he wins the £140 say nothing and if he loses claim he didn't notice)

Obv tell him not to go throwing chips in without knowing what the bet is, cos that's a little dumb but mistakes happen.

And then he does it the next time, & expects his money back again, "I got it back last time" will be his words.

We have to be accountable Dave. Only takes one hard lesson for it to sink in. It's Live, not Online, In Live Poker you are supposed to pay attention.

Players sat there not paying attention cause half of these disputes & rulings. The remedy is very simple.

When I was a lad, I did a really dumb thing one day, & my dad gave me the strap. I never made that mistake again.

[GreekStein]

jesus let the man take his £25 back, it's very obviously not an angle (unless it's a very advanced one where he's  going to wait until after the hand then if he wins the £140 say nothing and if he loses claim he didn't notice)

Obv tell him not to go throwing chips in without knowing what the bet is, cos that's a little dumb but mistakes happen.

And then he does it the next time, & expects his money back again, "I got it back last time" will be his words.

We have to be accountable Dave. Only takes one hard lesson for it to sink in. It's Live, not Online, In Live Poker you are supposed to pay attention.

Players sat there not paying attention cause half of these disputes & rulings. The remedy is very simple.

When I was a lad, I did a really dumb thing one day, & my dad gave me the strap. I never made that mistake again.

yeah agree with Tikay here.

Others realise this is an easy spot to angle and it will only cost them £1 to do it then the ruling has to be as stated.

[GreekStein]

What happens if player flicks in the chip to signify call and then the others insta table their hand?

[The Camel]

Just like stopped clock, Tikay is right twice a day.

And this is one of his two for Tuesday.

[Cf]

I'm with Dave on this one. Let him have his £25 back.

If you're not going to let him then he should be held for the full £140.

I've never seen why in these situations we should artificially bloat the pot with a wayward £25.

[SuuPRlim]

jesus let the man take his £25 back, it's very obviously not an angle (unless it's a very advanced one where he's  going to wait until after the hand then if he wins the £140 say nothing and if he loses claim he didn't notice)

Obv tell him not to go throwing chips in without knowing what the bet is, cos that's a little dumb but mistakes happen.

And then he does it the next time, & expects his money back again, "I got it back last time" will be his words.

We have to be accountable Dave. Only takes one hard lesson for it to sink in. It's Live, not Online, In Live Poker you are supposed to pay attention.

Players sat there not paying attention cause half of these disputes & rulings. The remedy is very simple.

When I was a lad, I did a really dumb thing one day, & my dad gave me the strap. I never made that mistake again.

yeah agree with Tikay here.

Others realise this is an easy spot to angle and it will only cost them £1 to do it then the ruling has to be as stated.

Just as easy to angle, throw a £1 in, see if anyone turns thier hands over and if they don't plead ignorance and say goodbye to your £1...

Don't see any logic to this leave the chip in rule, if it's the letter of the law then he calls the whole £140, if it looks like a genuine mistake then give his £25 back and warn him next time he does this he will have to call the whole lot, cant say fairer imo.