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« Reply #75 on: July 21, 2015, 02:19:45 PM »

This guy withdrew his money from a bank though.

More than likely the issue is he wont have a PC/ may not have a smartphone.

He also has nothing else to do apart from wander around town and then gets tempted in by winning a fiver and then moving onto the next shop.

The other lot on the FOBT's are the cash in hand types. Restaurant owners, lads getting paid cash etc. They are much more likely to go and try and spin up in shops rather than do it out of bank accounts.

Yes he did have a bank card but that doesn't mean he has a bank account that you can use as a debit card and bet online.  Millions of ex bankrupt's/iva people/potless dole boys/bad credit rating types have what martin lewis calls 'basic bank accounts' where you can have a basic cash card and bank accoutn which only lets ur wages/benefits get paid in and you have no o/d facility/chequebook/visa debit facilities.  Your only option is to withdraw cash via atm.  These are the types betting shops cater for nowadays as otherwise you could just go online and bet with better offers/promos etc that you don't get in shops.  OBviously the old guys love the community feel of the betting shop but the fobt culture is slowly killing that as the old boys slowly die off at the same time.

What?

"Old boys die off"?

Why was I not made aware of this?


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« Reply #76 on: July 21, 2015, 02:21:25 PM »

Good god the store manager is a knob.
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« Reply #77 on: July 21, 2015, 02:26:33 PM »

This guy withdrew his money from a bank though.

More than likely the issue is he wont have a PC/ may not have a smartphone.

He also has nothing else to do apart from wander around town and then gets tempted in by winning a fiver and then moving onto the next shop.

The other lot on the FOBT's are the cash in hand types. Restaurant owners, lads getting paid cash etc. They are much more likely to go and try and spin up in shops rather than do it out of bank accounts.

Yes he did have a bank card but that doesn't mean he has a bank account that you can use as a debit card and bet online.  Millions of ex bankrupt's/iva people/potless dole boys/bad credit rating types have what martin lewis calls 'basic bank accounts' where you can have a basic cash card and bank accoutn which only lets ur wages/benefits get paid in and you have no o/d facility/chequebook/visa debit facilities.  Your only option is to withdraw cash via atm.  These are the types betting shops cater for nowadays as otherwise you could just go online and bet with better offers/promos etc that you don't get in shops.  OBviously the old guys love the community feel of the betting shop but the fobt culture is slowly killing that as the old boys slowly die off at the same time.

What?

"Old boys die off"?

Why was I not made aware of this?


Gotcha, fair point!

I still also think there is a feel thing for cash and betting in a shop where he can take in £50 and walk out with £55 and go and buy himself a pint.
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« Reply #78 on: July 21, 2015, 02:31:07 PM »

I miss the old betting shop days when you could go in and expect there to be several punters who were reasonably clued up for a discussion on things amongst the many jokers in there.  The odd time i pop into a shop now the places look very depressing and usually very little conversation between the punters.
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« Reply #79 on: July 21, 2015, 05:52:24 PM »

I miss the old betting shop days when you could go in and expect there to be several punters who were reasonably clued up for a discussion on things amongst the many jokers in there.  The odd time i pop into a shop now the places look very depressing and usually very little conversation between the punters.

Me too.

Used to go into a Ladbrokes in Bracknell. There was a real community feel. Everyone knew everyone else.

There were experts, enthusiasts and novices. £100 a race punters and 5p yankee merchants. But we all had a laugh together.

Two quid match bets in horse races, odd against evens in the BAGS races for fivers.

Pat the manager used to give us back prices and a cup of tea.

And if anyone copped a nice win, they went down the cake shop for cream doughnuts all round.

Halcyon days.
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« Reply #80 on: July 21, 2015, 06:08:47 PM »

I think i have a rose tinted memory of the bookies when i worked there (must have been 1999-2000 i think when i did it full time).

Looking back it was the perfect job as I could watch any live sport going, work pretty much as many hours as i wanted in the summer, and generally doss about chatting to the punters while taking the odd flurry of bets every 5 minutes. I worked in High Wycombe where there were half a dozen shops and a decent range of staff rotating between them so you'd have some interesting conversation between your colleagues and the customers.

Obviously you tend to forget about being verbally abused, having pens/balled up slips thrown at you, and having to tackle the awkward moments when things stepped up to physical violence, even if it was only directed at equipment or other customers rather than you. Oh and the places got robbed pretty regularly, usually at gun or knife point.

I still thought it was great though Smiley
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« Reply #81 on: July 21, 2015, 07:02:20 PM »

Interesting to see the reaction of the pro punters v the non pro.

Think the pros have missed the point on what the show is about.
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« Reply #82 on: July 21, 2015, 08:06:10 PM »

Interesting to see the reaction of the pro punters v the non pro.

Think the pros have missed the point on what the show is about.

Disagree.

I have not missed the point at all.
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« Reply #83 on: July 21, 2015, 08:30:03 PM »

When is episode 2 and 3?
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« Reply #84 on: July 21, 2015, 08:46:18 PM »

Interesting to see the reaction of the pro punters v the non pro.

Think the pros have missed the point on what the show is about.

Disagree.

I have not missed the point at all.

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« Reply #85 on: July 21, 2015, 09:12:38 PM »

Enjoyed it to be fair.

Was surprised they showed people not being able to get on.


They showed one lolpro not being able to get on, and it wasn't with Coral. And he was also able to get more than the few pence most of us have to endure, despite winning as much as "£10,000 this year so far, wiiiiiiiiii". These tables don't pay for themselves.

Simon Clare got a bashing on Channel 4 a while back when he was insistent that's it rare for punters not to be able to get on. That was way more interesting than last night's jobbie.

The thing is he could get on.  That paddy account for the motm market he was on would have highly likely been set up for liab of a monkey for a clean account.  Which is what he got offered circa £27 at 18/1.  So his paddy account was effectively still clean and he was still moaning.  Comical mug.  Screen shot of his betfair P+L would have been better viewing for the past three months to see how he had really paid for his bathroom and kitchen. 

My mum texted me during the show last night and said 'why don't you do what this guy does and get a job and just do your betfair in the evenings like he does'.  I was like 'fuck me this show is giving mum ammo even after all these years to tell me to get a job again'!

LOL'd at this.

I think I enjoyed the show - although I didn't love it but I will watch it again next week.

It made me want to drive to the bookies in Hudds though - 30 neighbours hit every spin that lad was punting on!!! Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #86 on: July 21, 2015, 09:40:37 PM »

Interesting to see the reaction of the pro punters v the non pro.

Think the pros have missed the point on what the show is about.

Disagree.

I have not missed the point at all.

Smiley
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« Reply #87 on: July 27, 2015, 02:23:04 PM »

Episoide II 9pm tonight
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« Reply #88 on: July 27, 2015, 03:05:54 PM »

Steve Palmer on tonight's show billed as a pro punter even though i always assumed he was a RP journo for the sports section who probably got his bets on in full because a) he is a long term loser or b) he doesn't get the chance to slag off restrictions in the post in his columns if he is accommodated by the firms.  Maybe Chomps can confirm. I always thought his sunday column was a piss take of his week's punting and no pro punter would ever bet like him according to his column.   I have read many of his column's and thought 'god i would love to lay this guy's business' but i always just assumed the amounts (quite big for an RP journo) and bets themselves were just a piss take and made up for entertainment.
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« Reply #89 on: July 27, 2015, 03:10:47 PM »

Steve Palmer on tonight's show billed as a pro punter even though i always assumed he was a RP journo for the sports section who probably got his bets on in full because a) he is a long term loser or b) he doesn't get the chance to slag off restrictions in the post in his columns if he is accommodated by the firms.  Maybe Chomps can confirm. I always thought his sunday column was a piss take of his week's punting and no pro punter would ever bet like him according to his column. 

Don't know Steve Palmer personally, but hasn't he said in his column before that he's usually about skinto?

In that case it feels like another misuse of the term 'pro punter'. Pro punters buy new doors and tables with their profit - FACT.

Looking forward to this tonight.
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