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« Reply #180 on: October 08, 2015, 01:01:07 PM »

Compare him to Mark Wright from the Essex programme. How much more popular is he?

The public have a habit of voting who they like to a point and then voting just for the best dancer. Wright fell in the semi finals, which was a surprise to an extent, given his apparent popularity.

If Andre doesn't improve along with the others, he will get marked by the judges and that will lead to the public changing their mind before the final.

...perhaps unless he is in for the Tour...

No idea who mark wright is

So I suggest Andre is more popular but could be wrong

He's railtard1 on here.
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« Reply #181 on: October 08, 2015, 02:36:49 PM »

Met Peter Andre 3 times

Never met a bloke who spends more time with his fans talks to them goes way beyond e.t.c

Very nice polite guy who works very hard

From seeing him was surprised at the spread of age group that go as well

Will be very very hard to beat in a public vote

I hope you don't think this a brag Horsey.

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Not at all

My Mum liked him on tv and went to see him when he visited fairly locally every xmas. He spent at least 2 hours with people in wheelchairs first whilst i was there on each occasion and remembered people from year to year.

Quite how long he was there i have no idea but must have been pushing 8 hours.

Always had/has 4 bodyguards as well which seemed slightly overkill but they were very good as well

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« Reply #182 on: October 09, 2015, 08:51:00 PM »

Week Three is Movie Week

The first of the special weeks (Hallowe'en and Blackpool the other two), everybody goes a bit mad. The costumes are even more flamboyant, the professionals come up with outlandish numbers and judges often get brought along in the hysteria and give a few extra marks. We can expect the person who tops the leaderboard to get 32. I'd go as far as to say we may well see our first nine tomorrow.

We are looking for less of this...

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and more of this...



It's two hours of big, camp craziness. Logically, this favours the more energetic dances.

As if to prove a point, the Coralol Odds Compiler put his prices up at 6:45, while we had yet to see a few of the performers' latest footage on It Takes Two. Brave move, sir. By 7:30, the top two had drifted and he'd nicked a bit off the rest. I mean why bother sticking the prices up in the first place? Anyway...

The Top of the Market - Highest Scorer

Tough to get this right, because everyone still has weaknesses that are all too easy to spot, so it's a case of working out who might have the fewest.

Ok, so let's start with his Peterness. Dressed as a pirate, with one of the best choreographers on the show as his partner, we can expect all sorts from Cap'n Pete. However, his paso footage is all footwork and no shape. Ian Waite was critical on the Wednesday/Thursday Warm Up and the footage from yesterday we saw this evening has no sign of improvement. He doesn't look the part to me at all. He won't be on last this week (surely!), so no pressure on the judges to overmark him... 3/1? No thanks.

Jay - who has gone from Mick Hucknall to Howard Donald, after his barnetectomy - has great feet and his weight in his jive footage looks very good. It's tough for taller, stronger people to jive (ever tried it at a wedding? Hard enough spinning auntie mavis to Jailhouse Rock. Try doing a full routine with Aliona Vilani who is dressed as Uma Thurman). I like that I keep seeing him in dance shoes and Aliona can play to his strengths for sure by putting lots of spins in it. He deserves to be joint favourite, but 3/1 is about the money. He may tire late on and his flicks aren't that good.

Helen is third at 9/2. She looks excellent and Aljaz has a reputation for working his dancers hard, which Helen complained about today on the sofa with Zoe! It shows, though, and she would not surprise anyone by topping the leaderboard with her foxtrot. It's the hardest ballroom dance to do, but early weeks favour the women in ballroom, because the pro men can lead and cover up a multitude of sins.

Katie joins her at 9/2. Now I think she also looks good and those legs will be doing good things on the dancefloor, no question. Anton being top of the leaderboard in a latin number? I'd want more than 9/2 for that. The judges might save their nines for a quickstep, methinks.

Georgia May Foote is doing a rumba. It's a very difficult dance and she is being pushed to do some intricate moves. She has complained about a lot of spins and Giovanni has said he has put a double spin in, which is pretty serious. It also suggests there will be a lot of light and shade in it, where there's fast bits and then slow bits. That's incredibly hard to pull off. Week three? Hmmm... There is also the fact this will be a slow, sensual dance in a sea of lively, penguin-fuelled hyperbole. It could easily be a bit out of tune with the rest. Darcey and Craig will be critical if she misses a note. 9/1 is not attractive to me at all.

That leaves us with more before we get into the no-channers...

Anita is dancing to Ghost's Unchained Melody (not Robson and Jerome). It is an American Smooth, which is normally done as a foxtrot, but can be any ballroom dance. Gleb has chosen a Viennese Waltz. Whilst there are only four actual moves in a Viennese Waltz (natural turn, reverse turn, Fleckerl and Reverse Fleckerl), it's probably the hardest version to do as an American Smooth. Now, he has danced as a pro on the American and Russian versions of this show, so he knows what he is doing. There is only one reason he has chosen to do a Viennese Waltz: because he believes she can do it. Her footwork looks good in training and she has been threatening to turn a good one in, in the first two weeks. This may be her week. 7/1 might be a spot. My only notes of concern are we have yet to see her in hold in the show and, going by the training footage, there seems to be a fair bit of - to use a Len-ism - fannying about. If that happens, she might get three favourable judges' scores and get just a severrrrn from Head Judge.

The one I really like is Kellie. She has coped really well with two tough routines so far. Kevin likes to test his partners and that can work both ways. He does excel in the theme weeks, though: remember Frankie Bridge last year doing "I Want To Be In America" as a Paso Doble last year? This week: Star Wars Charleston? Amazing. More importantly...she looks absolutely fantastic in training. We all love a Charleston and we all know what Craig wants to see: swivel. There's tons of it. If she swivels any more she'll break her ankles. They look in sync, they have a ton of work to do in one of these, but it's a fun week and everyone will be on their feet if she nails it. 8/1 is a corking price. I'd be happy to back her at 5/1.

Kellie Bright is my value tip for the top this week.
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« Reply #183 on: October 10, 2015, 09:13:08 AM »

Compare him to Mark Wright from the Essex programme. How much more popular is he?

The public have a habit of voting who they like to a point and then voting just for the best dancer. Wright fell in the semi finals, which was a surprise to an extent, given his apparent popularity.

If Andre doesn't improve along with the others, he will get marked by the judges and that will lead to the public changing their mind before the final.

...perhaps unless he is in for the Tour...

No idea who mark wright is

So I suggest Andre is more popular but could be wrong

He's railtard1 on here.

Nice to see Camel has been on this thread - I sense he is a closet SCD fan.
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« Reply #184 on: October 10, 2015, 11:58:45 AM »

Highest Scorer market now:

7/2 Jay
4/1 Peter
9/2 Helen
9/2 Kellie
5/1 Katie
6/1 Anita
8/1 Georgia May

66/1 bar

The selection above is 120% and that's without the rest of the field. They're not even trying, are they?
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« Reply #185 on: October 10, 2015, 12:03:03 PM »

Highest Scorer market now:

7/2 Jay
4/1 Peter
9/2 Helen
9/2 Kellie
5/1 Katie
6/1 Anita
8/1 Georgia May

66/1 bar

The selection above is 120% and that's without the rest of the field. They're not even trying, are they?

It's a market largely aimed at recreationals, and if it were 200% they would still bet. Why sell something for a quid if you can get £2?
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« Reply #186 on: October 10, 2015, 12:09:53 PM »

Highest Scorer market now:

7/2 Jay
4/1 Peter
9/2 Helen
9/2 Kellie
5/1 Katie
6/1 Anita
8/1 Georgia May

66/1 bar

The selection above is 120% and that's without the rest of the field. They're not even trying, are they?

It's a market largely aimed at recreationals, and if it were 200% they would still bet. Why sell something for a quid if you can get £2?

Absolutely. No fun though Smiley

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« Reply #187 on: October 10, 2015, 12:16:17 PM »

Elsewhere today, Anthony's one armed Paso Doble will see his bottom half being praised and the rest of him looking weird. He could end up in the dance off this weekend. Have you ever seen a one armed bullfighter?

Outsider for the lowest scorer? Daniel O'Donnell as Danny Zuko? Jamelia may struggle, too. Having her longer than Kirsty Gallacher is an error for sure. Kirsty will post a solid but unspectacular score tonight: 25 ish.

I might be out for the live action tonight, as I'm playing chess this afternoon. Feel free to post your own commentary and thoughts here. It will help me judge people's opinions and perceptions of what they're watching.
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« Reply #188 on: October 10, 2015, 08:25:57 PM »

I wonder if Kirstie's husband will text her to not take the doggie costume and make-up off and come straight home just as she is..
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« Reply #189 on: October 10, 2015, 09:01:47 PM »

Jay worst lay ever
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« Reply #190 on: October 10, 2015, 09:05:50 PM »

Jay worst lay ever

Timing just looked very good in that dance.  Thought he was supposed to be awful pre show?  Much better than the rest.  Unlucky Tal. 
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« Reply #191 on: October 10, 2015, 09:10:29 PM »

Jay worst lay ever

Timing just looked very good in that dance.  Thought he was supposed to be awful pre show?  Much better than the rest.  Unlucky Tal. 

I maintain the man has no natural rhythmn or movement......he can't half dance though - annoying.
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« Reply #192 on: October 10, 2015, 09:15:03 PM »

Jay worst lay ever

Timing just looked very good in that dance.  Thought he was supposed to be awful pre show?  Much better than the rest.  Unlucky Tal.  

I maintain the man has no natural rhythmn or movement......he can't half dance though - annoying.

As posted earlier ITT, he has danced before.

However, that 37 was undermarked. Absolutely spellbinding. He has clearly worked hard in the last couple of days on his flicks because he was super sharp.

@Doobs, not sure if that was directed at me, but I didn't say he was awful. I said he deserved to be favourite.

Almost got a chop but I don't mind losing to something that good.

No idea what has happened in the week with Anton and Katie but something must have. No way they choreograph that little dancing without a reason. I think the judges were as surprised as the rest of us.

Anthony is in a world of trouble.

Nice to see them finding fault in something Peter did.

Kirsty doesn't look like she can win this competition. Helen does.
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« Reply #193 on: October 10, 2015, 10:23:54 PM »

I didn't aim anything at you Tal.  I heard Jay was awful early on, and there was a bit of stuff around where he said he wasn't much of a dancer.  So I laid him at about 6.0 early doors long before you had piped up.  First week I was thinking what a good lay that was.  Even last week I was thinking well so what, he can walk round gracefull.  After about 30 seconds this week I was thinking the lay was bloody awful.  Might have to just suck it up.  I do like the Anita bet, and still think Jamelia must be a bet if she can put it all together.  Ainsley was terrible this week. 

Fwiw I don't know if you heard but the digital spy strictly spoiler thread malfunctioned last week.  Got Iwan right, but think they had Kirsty in the dance off and not Jamelia.
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« Reply #194 on: October 10, 2015, 10:30:54 PM »

I didn't aim anything at you Tal.  I heard Jay was awful early on, and there was a bit of stuff around where he said he wasn't much of a dancer.  So I laid him at about 6.0 early doors long before you had piped up.  First week I was thinking what a good lay that was.  Even last week I was thinking well so what, he can walk round gracefull.  After about 30 seconds this week I was thinking the lay was bloody awful.  Might have to just suck it up.  I do like the Anita bet, and still think Jamelia must be a bet if she can put it all together.  Ainsley was terrible this week. 


My mistake. Sorry. Was just confused more than anything else! He looked exceptionally nervous the first week and a little better last week. Aliona sees a lot in him I think. He must be favourite now for the win. Not saying I'd back him at a short price but he is certainly in front at the moment. Whether he can samba or foxtrot, we will have to see.


Fwiw I don't know if you heard but the digital spy strictly spoiler thread malfunctioned last week.  Got Iwan right, but think they had Kirsty in the dance off and not Jamelia.

Wowzers! No, I hadn't heard about that at all. Sack the mole!
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