The worst Premier League. Ever?

[DungBeetle]

I think people forget this 'record' EPL tv deal is equally balanced between all 20 clubs (barring additional payments for each game shown - these are marginal compared to the flat fee lump all 20 teams get).  This is what is making the middle 10 clubs so much more competitive as they have real buying power to attract champions league players wages wise who they would never have been able to attract in the past.  Palace/Stoke/Newcastle signings this summer are all evidence of this.

In turn this doesn't make the top teams relatively more competitive against the Spanish giants.  The big two in Spain mop up virtually all the tv money under their tv deal.

I think there is a new La Liga deal next season which attempts to remedy this Arb.  The question is - what is better?  All the teams to get a slice of the pie and we're a bit less competitive in Europe.  Or our top 5 clubs get all of it and win in Europe while handing out 6-0 spankings all over the shop at home.  I know what I think is better.

At the end of the day the English top clubs can outbid nearly everyone in Europe even as it stands.

[arbboy]

I think people forget this 'record' EPL tv deal is equally balanced between all 20 clubs (barring additional payments for each game shown - these are marginal compared to the flat fee lump all 20 teams get).  This is what is making the middle 10 clubs so much more competitive as they have real buying power to attract champions league players wages wise who they would never have been able to attract in the past.  Palace/Stoke/Newcastle signings this summer are all evidence of this.

In turn this doesn't make the top teams relatively more competitive against the Spanish giants.  The big two in Spain mop up virtually all the tv money under their tv deal.

I think there is a new La Liga deal next season which attempts to remedy this Arb.  The question is - what is better?  All the teams to get a slice of the pie and we're a bit less competitive in Europe.  Or our top 5 clubs get all of it and win in Europe while handing out 6-0 spankings all over the shop at home.  I know what I think is better.

At the end of the day the English top clubs can outbid nearly everyone in Europe even as it stands.

I think our system is great.  It also makes the championship a much better league as well with the parachute payments nearly a third of that league receive which means they can attract players of a certain level who wouldn't have considered that league previously.  All in all football is a great export product for England.  It brings a shit load of foreign money into the country.

[The Camel]

What is the highest fee paid for a player by any team which isn't Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs or Liverpool?

I'd guess Lukaku, but don't really know.

[BorntoBubble]

The knock on effect also of the premiership getting flatter in terms of ability is the "tough game" factor. To win the english treble now is going to be nearly impossible to battle all fronts week in week out.

[arbboy]

The knock on effect also of the premiership getting flatter in terms of ability is the "tough game" factor. To win the english treble now is going to be nearly impossible to battle all fronts week in week out.

Also means you can't rest before every champs league week like barca and madrid can because they are 1/10 at home to any one of 10 teams.  Lolapool are resting tonight in the europa league just to try to keep pace in the EPL in their attempt to finish 4th.  Add in the lack of winter break etc and there are a lot of competitive disadvantages associated with EPL champions league teams compared to other countries.

[tikay]

I think people forget this 'record' EPL tv deal is equally balanced between all 20 clubs (barring additional payments for each game shown - these are marginal compared to the flat fee lump all 20 teams get).  This is what is making the middle 10 clubs so much more competitive as they have real buying power to attract champions league players wages wise who they would never have been able to attract in the past.  Palace/Stoke/Newcastle signings this summer are all evidence of this.

In turn this doesn't make the top teams relatively more competitive against the Spanish giants.  The big two in Spain mop up virtually all the tv money under their tv deal.

I think there is a new La Liga deal next season which attempts to remedy this Arb.  The question is - what is better?  All the teams to get a slice of the pie and we're a bit less competitive in Europe.  Or our top 5 clubs get all of it and win in Europe while handing out 6-0 spankings all over the shop at home.  I know what I think is better.

At the end of the day the English top clubs can outbid nearly everyone in Europe even as it stands.

I think our system is great.  It also makes the championship a much better league as well with the parachute payments nearly a third of that league receive which means they can attract players of a certain level who wouldn't have considered that league previously.  All in all football is a great export product for England.  It brings a shit load of foreign money into the country.

A completely unrelated question to the thread, but how much parachute money would Blackpool FC have received when they fell out of the EPL after a brief dalliance? A separate question would be where did it go, but that's another story.

[TightEnd]

for blackpool it was £8-16m a year for 4 years

now parachute payments are over three years

Oyston paid himself £10.5m in the single premier league season

[tikay]

for blackpool it was £8-16m a year for 4 years

now parachute payments are over three years

Oyston paid himself £10.5m in the single premier league season

Ha, that's awesome.

It's becoming quite a rich businessman's income stream, the EPL, now, a few of the mid-ranking teams making a good few bob. Think Mr Ashley works the system well, too, perhaps the Coates at Stoke, too?

And presumably, Mr Oyston paid himself most of the parachute money, too.

I'd buy a used car from him. Probably.

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[arbboy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-34268761

I think the Lativan minority share holder is keen to know where all the wonga went as well.

[The Camel]

for blackpool it was £8-16m a year for 4 years

now parachute payments are over three years

Oyston paid himself £10.5m in the single premier league season

Ha, that's awesome.

It's becoming quite a rich businessman's income stream, the EPL, now, a few of the mid-ranking teams making a good few bob. Think Mr Ashley works the system well, too, perhaps the Coates at Stoke, too?

And presumably, Mr Oyston paid himself most of the parachute money, too.

I'd buy a used car from him. Probably.

Click to see full-size image.

Be surprised if the Coates family take money out of Stoke City.

They put quite a lot back into the local economy and charities.

[tikay]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-34268761

I think the Lativan minority share holder is keen to know where all the wonga went as well.

Well yes - presumably he is - or was, as I think his boy took over, deemed to be a "fit & proper person to be a Director of a Football Club". 

[tikay]

for blackpool it was £8-16m a year for 4 years

now parachute payments are over three years

Oyston paid himself £10.5m in the single premier league season

Ha, that's awesome.

It's becoming quite a rich businessman's income stream, the EPL, now, a few of the mid-ranking teams making a good few bob. Think Mr Ashley works the system well, too, perhaps the Coates at Stoke, too?

And presumably, Mr Oyston paid himself most of the parachute money, too.

I'd buy a used car from him. Probably.

Click to see full-size image.

Be surprised if the Coates family take money out of Stoke City.

They put quite a lot back into the local economy and charities.

The point being, it's a profitable venture for them, whether they take the money out is another matter. It still adds to the value of the Club. I admire the family greatly, on many levels. 

[tikay]

Talking of which, did the case against QPR operating outside of the financial limits ever get resolved? There was talk of huge fines at one time.

[DungBeetle]

Think football league bottled it and gave them a mid level fine.

[nirvana]

The knock on effect also of the premiership getting flatter in terms of ability is the "tough game" factor. To win the english treble now is going to be nearly impossible to battle all fronts week in week out.

Also means you can't rest before every champs league week like barca and madrid can because they are 1/10 at home to any one of 10 teams.  Lolapool are resting tonight in the europa league just to try to keep pace in the EPL in their attempt to finish 4th.  Add in the lack of winter break etc and there are a lot of competitive disadvantages associated with EPL champions league teams compared to other countries.

Think squad rotation here is due to the stockpiling of good but not great players. Not sure barca or madrid rest players that much. People like messi Ronaldo Neymar seem to play pretty much every game