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« on: November 30, 2015, 12:23:01 AM »

Unfortunately blonde looks set for its quietest month ever (excluding its first few months) after a few months of uplift things have dropped off dramatically.

I for one have been a lot less active but it worries me that across the board the place is quieter, it looks like we are in a spiral that cannot be recovered Sad
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2015, 12:26:40 AM »

whats the stats? compared to last month etc? thought this daily 20£ giveaway thing would have made a lot more posts (that thread alone) although ofc i think prob shouldn't include those posts in analytics.
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2015, 12:42:56 AM »

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?action=stats


Monthly Summary   New Topics     New Posts   New Members   Most Online
 November 2015                 92            5533   5   428
 October 2015                170            7809   7   200
 September 2015                215           10355   2   4999
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2015, 01:59:17 AM »

I think the new member stat is almost as telling as the rest of the stats. Blonde has very little new blood, in the past posters would come and go but now as the natural cycle of people getting disinterested in poker/forum use/blonde in general there is no one to replace that.

Tikay and tighty can if they put the effort in as they did a few months ago, artificially bump the stats but it doesn't change the underlying problems. It's sad to see, but I don't think there is anyone to blame per se just the natural way of things.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2015, 02:05:57 AM »

I thought people were getting disinterested in poker.. then I played the GUKPT Grand Final at the Vic this weekend.

The place was buzzing and they set a new prize pool record.

Does it matter that Blondepoker is a little quieter than it was?

I don't think the site will ever be sold now in current climate, why else would we need to prop up new thread and new posts stats?

 
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2015, 06:01:47 AM »

Slowly dying as the site is nothing more than a forum
Front page looks so dated and doesn't show much of interest/is regularly updated
As was mentioned about poker events buzzing, the audience being there, they won't come to blonde though as no effort put in to attract people is there?
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2015, 07:45:59 AM »

As a relatively new poster, blonde is sometimes not the most welcoming to new members. You have much to offer and there's some excellent threads on the go - I think we could all do a little more to welcome new voices to the discussions.
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2015, 11:10:26 AM »

Lack of live updates must have been a big hit aswell?
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2015, 11:22:30 AM »

I think the DTD sponsorship which is obviously a great help financially is actually a double-edged sword in as much as very little poker outside of Nottingham is now discussed on here.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2015, 12:01:41 PM »



Will try & field a few of these comments.

Certainly, it's been a disappointing month from the pov of number of Posts, though "Views" are holding up well, & that is part of the problem, as I'll try to explain.
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2015, 12:06:21 PM »

whats the stats? compared to last month etc? thought this daily 20£ giveaway thing would have made a lot more posts (that thread alone) although ofc i think prob shouldn't include those posts in analytics.

We were just trying a few different things with those Daily Comps, you know, throw enough darts at the board & we might hit a few bullseyes, but in truth, it was a bit of a dud, as it did not really increase genuine interaction. It cost money, too.

For the most part, they stopped in October, so yes, it cost a few Posts, but not really significant or useful ones. 

Tighty & I try a lot of things, a few work, a lot don't, but we do try.

On which note, you have a big following here, & it's good for blonde to have one of the best online poker players in the world in their midst, so would you be up for an "In the well with Mr Pads"?   
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2015, 12:32:45 PM »

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?action=stats


Monthly Summary   New Topics     New Posts   New Members   Most Online
 November 2015                 92            5533   5   428
 October 2015                170            7809   7   200
 September 2015                215           10355   2   4999


Note the correlation between Posts, & New Topics.

A few of us made a real effort in September to rev the place up, & it worked, we had the best month in years.

Most of the new threads in September were made by 3 individuals, well over half of them at a guess.

Fair to say that Tighty & I in particular, & to a lesser degree, the Mods as a whole, have a responsibility to keep the place fresh & buzzing.

It's also fair to say - imo - that as a Community, rather than a business run for profit, it behoves everyone to make a bit of effort, & I don't think the effort should be restricted to direct stakeholders. If people want blonde to continue - if - a bit of effort is required from everyone.

My input in October & November certainly lessened, due to a variety of circumstances, mainly my work Next Door, lack of time, &, in truth, I felt we were pushing too hard, trying to force the action. I got a bit down about it all, too, sort of the internet & social-Media have changed, & we are peeing into the wind.

It's almost a managed decline I suppose.    

I'll explain shortly how we are all interacting differently these days, but here's a great example that was sent to me this morning. And this was not on blonde, it was on Facebook.

Alex Goulder barely has an enemy on earth, he's almost universally liked, admired & respected.

So on Facebook, he announced his engagement.

Inside 24 hours, it got (I'm told - I don't have Facebook) 364 "LIKES", you know, you press a little button & a "LIKE" symbol appears. And less than 30 actual replies. It's so easy these days to just click an icon & move on.

We have some great threads here, such as "The Week as I saw It", "On This Day", & "Too Much Information". These get much higher Views per post than most threads. But very few Members actually Post on those threads, almost all the Posts are made by a small regular group of contributors. So people find them interesting, but don't feel able or wish to post stuff themselves. If we had a "LIKE" Button, I bet it would get clicks galore, but we don't, & I don't see the point of one.

It's fast & easy to "read only", actually Posting takes more time, & most of us have full lives & better things to do.

Not a criticism of people, it's just how things are these days, we are all busy busy busy.

If I had the time, I would bet good money that I could start a lot of new Threads in December, along with a few others, & we could get the Post Count back up to 10,000. I just don't have the time though, & to be honest, I think if the Members want blonde to thrive, then more of them need to share the load.

Fred was quieter than usual in November, too, for a variety of reasons, & I was debating whether it was time to call it a day, but it sprung back to life in the last week. Tighty has always sweated that very hard, but he was getting nowhere, but the uptick in the last week was broadly based, so that was nice to see.

Incidentally, Camel is superb at starting threads that endure, & people enjoy - such as Fred, & "Whatever happened to?".

Such threads are pure gold, as they create genuine, un-forced, interaction.

And anyone can start them.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2015, 12:57:20 PM »

I think the new member stat is almost as telling as the rest of the stats. Blonde has very little new blood, in the past posters would come and go but now as the natural cycle of people getting disinterested in poker/forum use/blonde in general there is no one to replace that.

Tikay and tighty can if they put the effort in as they did a few months ago, artificially bump the stats but it doesn't change the underlying problems. It's sad to see, but I don't think there is anyone to blame per se just the natural way of things.

Could not agree more.

Don't think there are any fingers to point, it's just how things are.

I had a quick look at a few UK based Poker Forums this morning.   

Betfair Poker Forum - a TOTAL of 5 different threads posted in  the month of November. 5 threads. In a month.

THM General Poker Discussion - a TOTAL of 4 different threads posted on in the entire month of November. Those 4 threads got a grand total of 6 replies between them. (This ignores a dodgy link-spammer who started about a 20 threads yesterday, none of which elicited a reply). 

TalkSport Poker Forum - 11 threads started in the last 6 months, all by the same Member. Not a single reply to any of them. 

AWOP Poker Forum. They work very hard there to start "Information" threads about poker events. 21 threads have been posted on over this weekend, almost all of them new threads. 13 of them did not get a single reply. The average thread length is about 3 posts. And those guys really have tried. 

APAT General Poker Discussion. 3 threads in November, & a total of 6 replies. I would imagine the APAT Tournament section is quite busy though.


I'm not dissing any of those Forums, just placing our situation in context. Compared to all of those, we are doing wonderfully well.

It all just suggests to me, as Lord Longy says, it's the natural way of things.
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2015, 01:07:54 PM »

I thought people were getting disinterested in poker.. then I played the GUKPT Grand Final at the Vic this weekend.

The place was buzzing and they set a new prize pool record.

Does it matter that Blondepoker is a little quieter than it was?

I don't think the site will ever be sold now in current climate, why else would we need to prop up new thread and new posts stats?

 

Typically lateral thinking by Mr Camel.

I'm conflicted really. I'd not like to see the thing die slowly, just wither away, that's what really bothers me. Euthanasiaia would be better than a slow death.

I'm quite fond of the place, & all the friends I've made because of it. 

Where would we draw the line, at what point should we say "well there's no point in continuing"?

There is a hardcore bunch of blonde posters who make a ton of effort to construct good posts & threads, which are a great read, no matter what the topic. Without them, it's gg. 

Looking at all the other UK based poker forums, we are doing amazingly well. 
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2015, 01:11:16 PM »

Slowly dying as the site is nothing more than a forum
Front page looks so dated and doesn't show much of interest/is regularly updated
As was mentioned about poker events buzzing, the audience being there, they won't come to blonde though as no effort put in to attract people is there?


Difficult to agree with that.

It's free to view, it's a community. If people want it, more of them need to interact, & start new threads. Some regulars, who take a lot from blonde, have never started a thread. Which is fine, but I don't think it behoves them to suggest we don't make any effort. We all own blonde.

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