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« on: January 11, 2016, 01:24:04 PM »

what do you think about this?

not everyone at the time would have been dirty....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/35277793
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2016, 01:27:23 PM »

what do you think about this?

not everyone at the time would have been dirty....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/35277793

Seems a bit harsh on clean athletes such as Lord Coe.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2016, 01:33:11 PM »

It would be harsh but then sometimes you just have to throw the baby out with the bathwater - of the women's track records probably only Dibaba's 1500m record is clean, and even then...

It would need Paula Radcliffe to come out and say she was happy for her marathon record to get burned for this to gain traction.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2016, 01:34:22 PM »

what do you think about this?

not everyone at the time would have been dirty....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/35277793

Seems a bit harsh on clean athletes such as Lord Coe.

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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2016, 02:29:04 PM »

The proposal makes the assumption everyone competing now is clean, else you'd have to renew the process every time someone was found to have set a record illegally.

What would happen if one of the superstars in Rio were found to have got there through drugs? Hit the refresh button?

Asterisk the cheats unless and until we have a better system.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2016, 04:11:25 PM »

It would need Paula Radcliffe to come out and say she was happy for her marathon record to get burned for this to gain traction.

Well, that's that.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/11/paula-radcliffe-uk-athletics-world-records-rejects
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2016, 05:00:37 PM »

Seems a bit much to scratch the lot

Hopefully it doesn't end up in limbo as the MLB is where Barry Bonds isn't in the hall of fame but gets to keep his all time leading home run hitter record
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2016, 06:26:16 PM »

I think anyone who sets a world record should be banned. Or in fact, anyone who runs a 'silly fast time'. Banned.
Obviously 'a silly fast time' is a subjective thing so we would need an independent tribunal to decide.
The tribunal would need someone of the highest integrity with no inherent bias as chairman.
I propose Chairman Camel.

First case, Lord Coe.
Check it: 1980 Olympic 1500m Coe ran last 100m in 12.1 seconds, insanely fast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKvbzPgYwbk

1981, Europa Cup: runs last 100m of 800m race in 11.3 secs, fastest ever finish for distance.
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2016, 08:26:24 PM »

Never going to get anything like clean until all testing is done independently. Crazy that own Country's body currently tests, especially with all the politics involved ( USA v USSR as the biggest example).
Athletics also hasn't helped itself by only having 2 year bans for drug cheats, should be 10 if not a life ban.

Certainly needs a line drawn underneath it somewhere,but not sure where or how it should be applied.
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