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Question: "Even though we voted for it, do you think Britain will actually leave the EU?"
yes - 34 (48.6%)
no - 36 (51.4%)
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« on: June 28, 2016, 11:51:21 AM »

"Even though we voted for it, do you think Britain will actually leave the EU?"
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2016, 11:54:59 AM »

I didn't vote out, but more interesting would be I voted out, but would vote the other way now.  Or for those who love a bit of drama, I voted in, but now want out.
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2016, 12:09:44 PM »

I just can't see it happening.

I can see it getting to a point where it'd be so catastrophic that at some point the government will need to put a stop to it. Quite how that will happen is another matter entirely.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2016, 12:22:47 PM »

The people have spoken, not carrying out the wishes would have massive repercussions.  Things would have to get a lot worse before they could justify that imo.

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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2016, 12:24:33 PM »

Would have probably gone "don't know" at the moment.  Reckon it's about 70:30 in favour of leaving right now, but that has the potential to change on a daily basis, at the moment.

I fear the backlash from the Far Right if we don't do it, as it would effectively give them a platform to campaign on (denial of democracy) and they would potentially rally around Farage as an 'acceptable' face of their politics (in the same way that the Far Left are doing with Corbyn).

The scenario where I see us remaining would come from a General Election result where a coalition of parties (SNP, Lib Dem, Labour/Split Party) campaign on manifestos to keep us in.  None of them individually can win at present, but the next campaign feels like Tories/UKIP/DUP(?) vs Everyone Else.

Alternatively, we hit the button on Article 50, agree to extend time beyond 2 years and ultimately negotiate a way not to leave, although I'm not even sure if this is legally possible at present.
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2016, 12:25:04 PM »

If we don't leave, I honestly think we could see civil unrest and the end of our political system as we know it.

The distaste and distrust that large sections of disaffected parts of our society would have with the political class would be magnified significantly. Particularly large area's in deprived cities in the north of England.

If those sections of society think politicians are saying "fuck you" UK voters, I dread to think how they will react.

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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2016, 12:29:41 PM »

If we don't leave, I honestly think we could see civil unrest and the end of our political system as we know it.

The distaste and distrust that large sections of disaffected parts of our society would have with the political class would be magnified significantly. Particularly large area's in deprived cities in the north of England.

If those sections of society think politicians are saying "fuck you" UK voters, I dread to think how they will react.



I'm almost certain we won't leave.

And I'm equally certain there will be there will be blood on streets as Rick describes when it is realised nationally we aren't leaving.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2016, 12:35:17 PM »

If we don't leave, I honestly think we could see civil unrest and the end of our political system as we know it.

The distaste and distrust that large sections of disaffected parts of our society would have with the political class would be magnified significantly. Particularly large area's in deprived cities in the north of England.

If those sections of society think politicians are saying "fuck you" UK voters, I dread to think how they will react.



I'm almost certain we won't leave.

And I'm equally certain there will be there will be blood on streets as Rick describes when it is realised nationally we aren't leaving.

The thing is Camel, this goes to the heart of how our country runs and our democracy.

Leaving the EU may well be a disaster but surely our democracy and one person one vote - and maintaining its integrity with the public - is 10 times more important to protect.

This is a dangerous development and one which threatens the whole basis of our democracy and stability (how ever flawed it is).

If the vote is not followed through, I fear for our future more than if we leave the EU.
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2016, 12:38:24 PM »

If we don't leave, I honestly think we could see civil unrest and the end of our political system as we know it.

The distaste and distrust that large sections of disaffected parts of our society would have with the political class would be magnified significantly. Particularly large area's in deprived cities in the north of England.

If those sections of society think politicians are saying "fuck you" UK voters, I dread to think how they will react.



I'm almost certain we won't leave.

And I'm equally certain there will be there will be blood on streets as Rick describes when it is realised nationally we aren't leaving.

The thing is Camel, this goes to the heart of how our country runs and our democracy.

Leaving the EU may well be a disaster but surely our democracy and one person one vote - and maintaining its integrity with the public - is 10 times more important to protect.

This is a dangerous development and one which threatens the whole basis of our democracy and stability (how ever flawed it is).

If the vote is not followed through, I fear for our future more than if we leave the EU.


I think I agree with that.

So ridiculous that Cameron offered the referendum in the first place.
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2016, 12:51:41 PM »

It absolutely has to happen.

I exercised my democratic right and voted to leave for the reasons of EQUALITY and DEMOCRACY

EQUALITY - I believe we should assess every application for immigration equally regardless of race. I am uncomfortable that certain races have an advantage because of their geographic location. (One of the biggest ironies is Leave voters are branded racist for wanting equality)

DEMOCRACY - My preference is to elect leaders who pass laws and shape our destiny rather than having unelected leaders imposed upon me.

So really how dare Remain voters presume to tell me that I'm racist and stupid so my democratic vote doesn't stand for anything. It's gonna be a very sorry day if the people are ignored.

Just for clarity again...SCOTLAND DID NOT VOTE TO REMAIN IN THE EU! Cheers.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2016, 12:56:08 PM »

I think what is worse is Cameron's inability to explain the benefits of being " in" to the populate. It was as if he didn't give a **** about our opinion and we didn't deserve any facts. All he did was issue threats to what might happen if the unthinkable did happen.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2016, 02:48:09 PM »

I voted out for workers rights and democracy, I have posted about the situation in Portugal more than once this is not too different to that. 

I also believe there will be a significant backlash if we don't leave, but not just from the right I can see anarchists, extreme left taking to the streets. 

There will also be clashes I believe between left and right when it comes to racism/fascism. 

Myself and others who have been involved in anti-fascist campaigns over the year have been, for some time advocating the formation of a bottom up radical left alternative.  This is now needed more urgently than ever before. 
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2016, 04:34:53 PM »

I would have to state 'don't know' at present.

Whatever happens the leave being touted now, is not anywhere like the leave being touted prior to the vote
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2016, 05:11:42 PM »

I don't believe there'll be significant civil unrest given a reversal of Brexit will probably happen after we truly see the effects of the inevitable economic downturn and people will begin to see sense. I kind of imagine the majority of unrelenting leave voters/racists to be something like those on post on the Britain First facebook page, most of them won't have the capacity to organise a piss up in a brewery.
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2016, 05:17:41 PM »

I don't believe there'll be significant civil unrest given a reversal of Brexit will probably happen after we truly see the effects of the inevitable economic downturn and people will begin to see sense. I kind of imagine the majority of unrelenting leave voters/racists to be something like those on post on the Britain First facebook page, most of them won't have the capacity to organise a piss up in a brewery.

LOL Wit, clearly you have learnt nothing? 

There is no doubt there is a sizeable element in the leave camp motivated by racism, but it's attitudes such as yours that get the back of others up.  Can't you see that this is all short termism and an affront to democracy. 
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