Gameshow ppitch feedback

[Robert HM]

Tank, the whole thing stinks like my bin on a Monday.

I know ideas for new TV shows all start like this in a brainstorming session, but this guy/ company wants the public to do the work for him/ them...and then fund it too!!

You couldn't make it up.

You made to errors here Axxe. Firstly you inadvertently forgot to say "in my opinion" on your first post and secondly you forgot the the Poker Den set up where Party Poker managed to get the contestants to cough up the prize money and charged a rake for the privelage. Make it up? It's been done.

Any speling errors in my post are delberet to give you a chance to reply.

[AndrewT]

Everyone's getting antsy over little things recently.

gmoneyAK, I can understand you feeling annoyed with people picking holes in your spelling when you post at 2.30 in the morning but remember, you came to us asking us for advice. You have to take it all on the chin, whether it's constructive criticism of the idea, or people having a go because you didn't read back your message to yourself before posting it.

Axxeman has had a falling out with a TV company before, so I can understand that he would be quick to pick holes in a production company's ideas. However, I think his comments were valid. gmoneyAK, you've come on here representing a production company, yet you've neglected to portray yourself in the best possible light. You've been quick to anger and taken umbrage at the slightest provocation. No wonder you got banned from the Betfair forum.

As for the idea itself - contestants putting up their own money is a complete non-starter. If I was to use £1000 of my own money in a gambling competition, then it's up to me exactly what I bet on, and how much. If you want to control what bets are made, let me use your money to do it with.

You are also on a hiding to nothing anyway. If I were a shrewdie (which I may, or may not, be) I would use my £1000, as instructed, then simply wait until we were partway through the filming before demanding that I get my £1000 back, else I walk away. The cost of abandoning/restarting filming would be way more than £1000, so the production company would cough up. I would therefore end up playing with the production company's money anyway, as I should have been all along.

gmoneyAK, you mentioned the programme that Sky did which had a guy who sold everything he had to put a bet on a spin of the roulette wheel in Las Vegas. If you genuinely think that guy was ever in any danger of losing everything he had, then you have a lot to learn about how TV works.

[yt]

Everyone's getting antsy over little things recently.

gmoneyAK, I can understand you feeling annoyed with people picking holes in your spelling when you post at 2.30 in the morning but remember, you came to us asking us for advice. You have to take it all on the chin, whether it's constructive criticism of the idea, or people having a go because you didn't read back your message to yourself before posting it.

Axxeman has had a falling out with a TV company before, so I can understand that he would be quick to pick holes in a production company's ideas. However, I think his comments were valid. gmoneyAK, you've come on here representing a production company, yet you've neglected to portray yourself in the best possible light. You've been quick to anger and taken umbrage at the slightest provocation. No wonder you got banned from the Betfair forum.

As for the idea itself - contestants putting up their own money is a complete non-starter. If I was to use £1000 of my own money in a gambling competition, then it's up to me exactly what I bet on, and how much. If you want to control what bets are made, let me use your money to do it with.

You are also on a hiding to nothing anyway. If I were a shrewdie (which I may, or may not, be) I would use my £1000, as instructed, then simply wait until we were partway through the filming before demanding that I get my £1000 back, else I walk away. The cost of abandoning/restarting filming would be way more than £1000, so the production company would cough up. I would therefore end up playing with the production company's money anyway, as I should have been all along.

gmoneyAK, you mentioned the programme that Sky did which had a guy who sold everything he had to put a bet on a spin of the roulette wheel in Las Vegas. If you genuinely think that guy was ever in any danger of losing everything he had, then you have a lot to learn about how TV works.

Excellent post. 
The main problem you will find is the kind of plebs that will say yes to this program are exactally the kind of people you wouldn't want to film.
As for you sending the bottom 3 players on their way while taking their money I'd like to see you film that. "but it's my money I won it." "sorry mate hand it over" "Bog off" exit left.
In theory then all of them could win say about 10k a piece and you would say sorry to the 3 with 9kish on your way boys and give us the 9k? wtf!!!!

[yt]

It's worse than that yt - it is the bottom 5 players who have to hand over the money they (may) still have.

yeah even if they have 1.4 million each....

[dik9]

Robert picked up the point about pokerden, but for a gameshow. Why not try the format of entry that Millionaire do, when you have to phone a premium line to have a shot at entering. If you get through, then put the £1000 up for them, then there would be no problem in taking the money off them. Hence recouping some costs of original "put up" by yourselves.
Makes it a lot more attractive if you put the money up, but you really have already profited by premium phone line.

Do they pick 1 horse, 1 dog, 1 poker touny etc or would it be over a week? If over a week then they should be able to specialise in one form of gambing as Tank said.

They could always take the option of buying their original stake back off you if they are in profit but about to get eliminated.
 

[matt674]

i've read the idea and i've read everyone's opinion of the idea - one quick question i want to ask is. Is the show to be broadcast on normal terrestrial TV or is going to be for a specialist channel like "thepokerchannel" or "challengetv"?

If it's a gameshow meant for normal terrestrial TV i cant see anything that encourages people to go out gambling on as many things as possible being approved for showing on air.

If its for the specialist channels then will it be as popular as programmes already being shown on there. I dont know if its just me but its very rare i watch any of these channels anymore as most of the programs are just either (1) constant repeats or (2) completely rubbish. (some of the ideas are good but the program is badly made or the ideas are just too unrealistic in the first place).

Too many people and program makers appear to be jumping on the poker (and therefore gambling) bandwagon at the moment and its just leading to too many poor quality programmes that no-one is watching.

There's only one program on gambling worth watching and thats Poker425 on channel 425 every night at 11pm!!

[AndrewT]

There's only one program on gambling worth watching and thats Poker425 on channel 425 every night at 11pm!!

*hears sound of promotional crate of bananas being shipped*

[matt674]

There's only one program on gambling worth watching and thats Poker425 on channel 425 every night at 11pm!!

*hears sound of promotional crate of bananas being shipped*

I am deeply shocked and saddened that you could think that my closing line was just an attempt to get a crate of bananas shipped to

Treehouse 6
Vine Lane
Jungleville
The Jungle
JU5 4GL

And to think we played together in a sit and go at the blonde bash and this was the impression i gave

[Newmanseye]

i've read the idea and i've read everyone's opinion of the idea - one quick question i want to ask is. Is the show to be broadcast on normal terrestrial TV or is going to be for a specialist channel like "thepokerchannel" or "challengetv"?

If it's a gameshow meant for normal terrestrial TV i cant see anything that encourages people to go out gambling on as many things as possible being approved for showing on air.

If its for the specialist channels then will it be as popular as programmes already being shown on there. I dont know if its just me but its very rare i watch any of these channels anymore as most of the programs are just either (1) constant repeats or (2) completely rubbish. (some of the ideas are good but the program is badly made or the ideas are just too unrealistic in the first place).

Too many people and program makers appear to be jumping on the poker (and therefore gambling) bandwagon at the moment and its just leading to too many poor quality programmes that no-one is watching.

There's only one program on gambling worth watching and thats Poker425 on channel 425 every night at 11pm!!

I thought your coconut Tv only picked up council telly or have your monkey butlers managed to install a satalite dish?

[gmoneyAK]

i appreciate all comments good or negative as public opinion is what counts, cos if no one watches it then its a rubbish tv programme. The thing that annoyed me was criticising my spelling not the idea. Just to point out its not my idea, its just my job to do all the possible research and find he flaws. Thankyou for all the feedback and i sont mind if the idea gets S!%t all over cos if no one likes the idea it wont get made.

The £1000 seems to be a sticking point for most and will probably not work if the members here represent a wide view point of the "gambler" types.

I just thought someone would gamble their own money different than someone elses. If someone gave me 1k i would stick it all on one dog without hesitation but i would not do that with my own 1k.

Thankyou anyway and i have to say i have taken on board all thoughts. I especially like tanks idea of having contestants each with their own speciality and have passed all the feed back to production. thankyou

[Wardonkey]

You'll get plenty willing to stump up the £1,000. People will do anything to be on TV.

The criticism of your spelling and the presentation of your post was perfectly valid. You are asking us for help and trying to sell an idea but you can't be arsed to prepare your post properly or even correct the typo in the title. Why should we take you seriously?

Despite this, it seems that you have got some useful feedback from the good people at blonde. Good luck.

 

[ifm]

I have to say i am sick and tired of people being criticised for spelling/grammar etc. on this forum.
Is this the new passtime?
This has always been a warm, friendly, inviting place to be, but how the hell do people (especially new members) feel about posting when they are terrified of being ridiculed??
Pack it in folks, it ain't funny.

[AndrewT]

I have to say i am sick and tired of people being criticised for spelling/grammar etc. on this forum.
Is this the new passtime?
This has always been a warm, friendly, inviting place to be, but how the hell do people (especially new members) feel about posting when they are terrified of being ridiculed??
Pack it in folks, it ain't funny.

Don't you mean that it isn't funny...?

[ifm]

No

[byronkincaid]

It's spelt pastime