Out of position, unraised pot

[TightEnd]

carribus is at seat 1 with 439.10
TeacherK is at seat 2 with 96.00
Duen2 is at seat 3 with 374.00
Mucky B is at seat 5 with 851.80
gonzo81 is at seat 6 with 143.60
Mr End is at seat 7 with 512.60
ostravak1 is at seat 8 with 216.60
*67suited* is at seat 10 with 88.00

ostravak1 posts the large blind 4.00
Mr End posts the small blind 2.00

Mr End: , As
ostravak1: --, --
*67suited*: --, --
carribus: --, --
TeacherK: --, --
Duen2: --, --
Mucky B: --, --
gonzo81: --, --

Pre-flop:

*67suited*: Fold
carribus: Fold
TeacherK: Fold
Duen2: Call 4.00
Mucky B: Call 4.00
gonzo81: Fold
Mr End: Call 4.00
ostravak1: Check

Flop (Board: , , ):

Mr End: Bet  12.00
ostravak1: Call 12.00
Duen2: Call 12.00
Mucky B: Fold

Turn (Board: , , , ):

Mr End: ?


Both opponents are ABC, Tight-ish and unremarkable

Check-fold or keep going?

[rivered]

Tough one - I hate hands like this, because I always feel obliged to continue betting.  I think with two limpers in to the pot and two flat calls, it smells like someone has hit trips (or has 77 and a straight) and is now slow playing.  I'd want to check-fold but probably wouldn't be good enough to and I'd bet 20-25.

[AndrewT]

My thoughts exactly rivered - I'd bet out here and immediately regret it 

A hand like    is a lovely one to call with on this flop.

[Longy]

Im going into check fold mode here, one caller ok i will fire again but two worries me greatly. I just think you behind too often here to justify betting again, you are dead to straight or trips. You may have one of them chasing the flush but not both. I can't think of many combinations of hands that we are ahead of the best situation is flush draw and top pair weaker kicker but that is hopeful at best.

Call me weak, call me tight but i think another bet is a losing play in the long run.

[b4matt]

it's a toughie. i would probably check raise here assuming you just get one bet behind you and depending on how much he bets... this way you find out if you've got the best hand and also it's no more expensive than a check call, check call... but hey... it's a toughie!

[rivered]

so... the important bit... what happened then?!

[SupaMonkey]

In this position, not knowing the opponents, i would bet $40 here. Basically i just want to look totally unfazed by the board. If i get called by ostrvak1 then i'm shutting up shop if i get called by duen2 then i would re-evaluate on the river.

[TightEnd]

so... the important bit... what happened then?!

I checked, going into check fold mode

Next player bets $20, third player flat calls

I put one on a 7, the other on the flush draw, possibly the nut flush draw. My 9 was no good I thought

The river was a blank, it went check check

BB turns over   

Third player turns over   

My desire not to get into trouble out of position on a straightening, flushing board had led me to be too "weak tight" with hindsight

[rivered]

suprising - I reckon on average you'd be -ve EV with this kinda situation.  I guess this is where knowing your enemy really helps.. hope you took lots of notes!!!

[not gus]

Im going into check fold mode here, one caller ok i will fire again but two worries me greatly. I just think you behind too often here to justify betting again, you are dead to straight or trips. You may have one of them chasing the flush but not both. I can't think of many combinations of hands that we are ahead of the best situation is flush draw and top pair weaker kicker but that is hopeful at best.
 

          

No way betting on here is a winning play in the long run, especially against ABC players - what can they possibly have between them that you are beating?

[not gus]

No way betting on here is a winning play in the long run, especially against ABC players - what can they possibly have between them that you are beating?

LOL wrote this post before reading conclusion. I guess that answered my question. I still think what I said and quoted before though.