Spelling and grammar

[Wardonkey]

I have, on occaison, asked people to take more care with their posts. I have never picked anyone up on insignifigant spelling errors or small grammatical errors. What I object to, is when people who are perfectly capable of using correct english present their posts in a fashion which is very difficult to read.

The only posts that I have taken issue with have been written by mystery, who was nothing more than a troll, boltpp who I think was attempting some kind of strange art and has since proven more than capable of producing very well written posts and the TV researcher who could not be bothered to correct a glaring typo in the title of his own thread.

I do not feel any kind of superiority to any posters, I am aware that I make many errors in my own writing and my typing is very poor. It takes me quite a long time to write a post such as this. I try to keep my errors to a minimum and construct my posts so that people can easily understand me.

I realise that many people have problems with correct spelling and grammar, and for many different reasons. It has never been my intention to discourage anyone from posting. As the general feeling seems to be that trying to encourage correct english is bad for the forum, I will no longer do so.

[tikay]

A brilliant Post by Red, and a stunning thread, showing just what blonde is all about.

I had some serious concerns last night after a Member was severely criticised for his spelling, punctiation & grammar, & it damn near kept me awake all night, worrying what peeps might think of blonde if we allow that sort of thing. I articulated this view to the Mods today, & said I was so troubled by the issue that I intended to submit a Post addressing the matter. No sooner the word than the deed, & I now find Red has done it for me - and FAR better than I ever could.

The man's on a roll. Wait till you see this week's Poker 425, he takes over the show! Quite right too.

[Sark79]

Yea I agree, Tikay. Red-Dog's post shows that Blonde isn't like other forums.

Before I learned about Blonde from Trace-T during a game we had on VC.  I used to post on a few other forums. I won't mention which ones because it is not honourable to do so. But the main thing I hated about these other forums was the lack of community and friendliness.

On Blonde, there are some truly nice people. People who willingly give advice about poker related issues and sometimes other day to day situations. I have not seen this on any other forum. I don't want to sound like some peace loving hippy but Blonde really is a happy forum.

It is obvious that the members on here really want other members to do well with their games. This can be seen by the amount of people who read Snoopys reports and Tikay's updates. And also pay attention to Tank's quest to play 4000 STT. On other forums, every post someone submits is scrutinized(sp?), and holes are picked into every comment. Of course, it is good to argue a point of view or suggest another way to play a hand,ect. But I am talking nastiness and an attempt to embarriss someone .

I paid a visit to one of my previous forums the other day and a similar topic to this one was being disscussed. However it was not in an attempt to support the other members. It was plain and simple bullying towards one particular member who obviously had difficulties where reading was concerned. I sent the guy concerned an email and told him to find himself another forum to post on where his comments would be valued. I hate any kind of bullying and particularly that type of bullying.

Blonde really is a great forum. If I had not discovered it, I would still be posting on one of the others and panicking over whether or not I had made a silly comment or mis-spelled a word. Keep up the great posts everyone.

Good Luck to all. 

[tikay]

I have, on occaison, asked people to take more care with their posts. I have never picked anyone up on insignifigant spelling errors or small grammatical errors. What I object to, is when people who are perfectly capable of using correct english present their posts in a fashion which is very difficult to read.

The only posts that I have taken issue with have been written by mystery, who was nothing more than a troll, boltpp who I think was attempting some kind of strange art and has since proven more than capable of producing very well written posts and the TV researcher who could not be bothered to correct a glaring typo in the title of his own thread.

I do not feel any kind of superiority to any posters, I am aware that I make many errors in my own writing and my typing is very poor. It takes me quite a long time to write a post such as this. I try to keep my errors to a minimum and construct my posts so that people can easily understand me.

I realise that many people have problems with correct spelling and grammar, and for many different reasons. It has never been my intention to discourage anyone from posting. As the general feeling seems to be that trying to encourage correct english is bad for the forum, I will no longer do so.

Interesting point by Wardonkey, most especially the last sentence of his first paragraph.......

"What I object to, is when people who are perfectly capable of using correct english present their posts in a fashion which is very difficult to read"....

Thats a VERY different matter to peeps who have, maybe, some difficulty with communicating the written word. We do see, now & then, huge, long, rambling Posts, with no paragraphs or punctuation, written, on occasions, by people who know better. The fact is, those Posts don't get properly read by the Membership, so it pays to try and present your Post properly - if you can. If you cant. it ain't a problem, it just aint.

[Gamblor21]

Have to be honest writing has never been one of my favourite past times... but being on blonde has definately improved i think, never enjoyed writing reports at college or uni!

I was much more of a cut n paste man!

I agree with what red and tikay have said, people should'nt be shouted down because of the odd spelling mistake!

I mean i'm northern i can't even speak, but i persist and people have to listen...

[suzanne]

Interesting thread

I have got to admit when I seen the slating mystery got about his grammer i was a bit angry. I was going to post something but thought... no... as my grammer isnt that good and I might have got dragged down too.

I dont know the full story obviously but from what I can gather he verbally abused a host which obviously can NEVER be allowed.

Just seems to me he was attacked from his first post or am i getting this wrong?

[thetank]

I think RED-DOG's point is a real eye-opener.

However well meaning some people's intentions were, in suggesting that posters break up their text to make it easier to read, to observers it looks like nit picking. I can definately see now that it might discourage newbies from posting and discourage existing members putting their thoughts into words to post their opinions more often too.


My initial thoughts were that in the future, diplomatically phrased pm's might be the way to go. Soon after thinking this, I dismissed the idea as a bad one. Such a thing could easily be percieved as being elitist and it's not worth the risk of putting someone off posting.

I echo this sentiment.....

It has never been my intention to discourage anyone from posting. As the general feeling seems to be that trying to encourage correct english is bad for the forum, I will no longer do so.

...and will hand back my paragraph policeman's badge and baton in due course.

The overall standard of posts on this forum, with regard to the ease at which they read, has never been a huge problem anyway. What has happened in the last couple of weeks, with regard to pleading for large chunks of text to be broken down, is an example of how when ten people raise the same point on an issue it makes it look like it's upsetting people more than it actually is.

[thetank]

Just because someone takes the time to go over there posts once they're written. Making adjustments, here and there, with the reader in mind. It doesn't make them better than anyone else.

I would do well to remember that others have ten times more commitments than myself and consequently a tenth of the time to spend on Blonde. That members take the time to write something should be celebrated and I should never criticize anyone who doesn't proof read their posts.



Viva la Blonde. As we continue to grow, may we always refrain from being clique and elitist. (I'm off to Kilmnarnock to join Sark79 in a hippy-fest)

[bolt pp]

You cant stop exponents of meticulous grammer taking a natural offence to ineptly constructed pieces of writing.
To try and constrain someone from asuaging frustration at a pooly constructed post is as equally fatuous.
It seems that the preponderance of time i've spent reading and posting on Blonde has been apportioned to addressing matters of grammer.
I elude primarily to my own post, entitled:Bare with me guys, to which i would've been happy to recieve
the receptive concencus featured in this one.
Horses for courses.

[thetank]

You cant stop exponents of meticulous grammer taking a natural offence to ineptly constructed pieces of writing.
To try and constrain someone from asuaging frustration at a pooly constructed post is as equally fatuous.
It seems that the preponderance of time i've spent reading and posting on Blonde has been apportioned to addressing matters of grammer.
I elude primarily to my own post, entitled:Bare with me guys, to which i would've been happy to recieve
the receptive concencus featured in this one.
Horses for courses.

Translaton :

You can't stop a fud thinking like a fud and acting like a fud.

It's a shame all you fuds didn't realise you were behaving like fuds till now.

Equines for consecutions.

[bolt pp]

You cant stop exponents of meticulous grammer taking a natural offence to ineptly constructed pieces of writing.
To try and constrain someone from asuaging frustration at a pooly constructed post is as equally fatuous.
It seems that the preponderance of time i've spent reading and posting on Blonde has been apportioned to addressing matters of grammer.
I elude primarily to my own post, entitled:Bare with me guys, to which i would've been happy to recieve
the receptive concencus featured in this one.
Horses for courses.

Translaton :

You can't stop a fud thinking like a fud and acting like a fud.

It's a shame you fuds didn't realise you were being fuds till now.

Equines for consecutions.

I like you Tank, which is strange as i believe you were/are a student.
A smilie face would have been an equally felicitous riposte.

see...................................

I might be a fud, which is a big problem for me.

[ifm]

Interesting thread

I have got to admit when I seen the slating mystery got about his grammer i was a bit angry. I was going to post something but thought... no... as my grammer isnt that good and I might have got dragged down too.

I dont know the full story obviously but from what I can gather he verbally abused a host which obviously can NEVER be allowed.

Just seems to me he was attacked from his first post or am i getting this wrong?

You are quite right.

[thetank]

All I learned when I was a student was how to fork out less for pizza and avoid paying the Council tax.

[thetank]

More definitions....



felicitous - adjective

Used to descibe someone who looks very shaggable in dungarees.
It's origins are thought to be a 70's situation comedy 'The Good Life'.



riposte - noun

 

[bolt pp]

This has just turned into a conversation of Profound sociological importance.
I too, have learned how to accomplish the aforementioned benefits, but in a slightly different fashion.
The housing estate on which i live allows for easy highjacking of pizza delivery bikes.
The housing benefit department are usually deterred from pursuing any recompense for unpaid council tax if you inform them that you are deppressed.(This can usually be substantiated by an eroneously aqquired note from your GP)
Different ends of the class spectrum interacting thus, For me an honour and a privalige.
Thankyou Blonde.

Got the smilie face ready, it may yet be needed.