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mikeymike2
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« on: August 14, 2020, 12:14:02 PM »

Numerous times I see people shoving pre flop or on the flop AA v KK ,s8 v sets and it always seems that the person who is ahead uses the cashing out facility -

why go all in to then cash out? The only peeps that I can see that benefit from cashing out is Pokerstars.

I always let the cards run and have never used the cash out facility am I losing +ev for not using the facility


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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2020, 11:01:24 PM »

when you cash out you are giving up a small amount of EV in exchange for lower variance.

EV wise i wouldn't use the feature -  long term you will be better off. think they charge a 1% fee.



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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2020, 09:56:04 AM »

Yes just don't use it. It's another mechanism to extract money from recreational players.

If you're uncomfortable with the amount in the pot to be running the deck once/twice on a flip, then sit out before.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2020, 09:07:34 AM »

It is a useful feature for shortstackers who are below min buy-in, take the 1% hit to keep your stack shorter rather than double+ up or have to rebuy in again for an amount higher than current stack. Probably worth the 1% through benefit of a really short stack and also reduces variance.
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2020, 12:48:03 PM »

It is a while since I played cash, but can see some benefit even to regulars.  Every so often when I played cash, I'd see someone I'd like to play at the bigger stakes.  If I ran good I'd find myself sat with $4k at $10/20 rather than $500 at $2.5/$5 or $200 at $1/$2.  Clearly if my friend is still at the table, I'd want to stay there, but the variance of the game is at a level where I could make or lose my usual month's profit.  In addition, I'd want to stay at the table and two buyins wouldn't be great for volatility either.  In that case if I find myself in a flip with another reg, I'd pay the 1% vig to stay in the game.  Overall that would likely be more profitable than just quitting and would reduce my volatility. 

I wouldn't use it my regular games but would have happily used it when taking shots at juicy tables. 
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Most of the bets placed so far seem more like hopeful punts rather than value spots
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