Stu Rutter WSOP Package, Wednesday 28th May 2025, selling at 1.05

[AlbusFawkes]

Are you all still friends with Neil Blatchly as well?

I don't know Neil Blatchly & I don't know you (at least not through your Blonde alias).

[Pokerpops]

Are you all still friends with Neil Blatchly as well?

That comparison’s a stretch

[celtic]

Are you all still friends with Neil Blatchly as well?

That comparison’s a stretch

Agreed, I mean Blatch has never been convicted of mocking dead football fans. Silly comparison.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70jyj22r2vo.amp

[Pokerpops]

Are you all still friends with Neil Blatchly as well?

That comparison’s a stretch

Agreed, I mean Blatch has never been convicted of mocking dead football fans. Silly comparison.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70jyj22r2vo.amp

Wasn’t aware of that. Shocked.

[easypickings]

I am posting because I don't want silence to suggest anything but how deeply sorry, and devastated I am, and always will be.

I don't want anything I say to sound the slightest bit like an excuse,  the slightest bit like looking for sympathy.

I can promise that on both issues, with the football one being bad, and the poker one far far bigger, I have suffered massively, and , especially with the poker, can be sure that I will every day for ever.

My wife came home the day after I got home from Vegas to find me with knives and 30 paracetamol tablets.  I would have thrown myself in front of a truck on the last day in Vegas if it wasn't for a dear friend talking me through every step of the way. I have had suicidal thoughts ever since the football incident, and have had a period of time on anti depressants.  I have been very suicidal the last two weeks, and frequently think of throwing myself in front of a train. Some messages here may seem undeservedly supportive,  but they have kept me alive. I am trying to keep myself alive for my family, and 6 year old boy

I want to clarify the football thing. The poker consequences are all completely deserved.  They are deserved for ever. The football thing, I do believe I have suffered enough.

 I sang 'always the victims, it's never your fault.' I got punched, got arrested in the commotion. What I did was very bad. It deserves a football ban, deserves a fine. But 99.9% of the punishment comes in the articles being there for ever, and having exaggeration (Sheffield Star) up to 'mocking the dead.'

'Always the victims' is a generic football chant that I have heard multiple times on the TV before and since. I repeat, what I did was bad, but I want to clarify the whole thing. Obviously my mental health has been bad for a long time, and the football thing has put me in a deserved dark place for a long time since, the poker thing a deserved, far far deeper one

[bagel]

many people will disagree , but i really think its time to lock this thread, if not remove it . 100% of the uk  poker community know all about what went on in vegas. nobody is learning anything new about that . as for the football, i heard about this after the vegas stuff happened , i am from liverpool so you can guess my thoughts on it. i have been directly affected by the issues stuart has just raised, on more than 1 occasion. both close friends ,both men of similar age as well. its sadly all too common. this is the only reason i have not said anything about that.

i am not for one minute downplaying both incidents. you cant defend either of them, but can try to add some context.

i am gutted , upset and of course angry about all of this ,but do not understand what keeping this thread open is going to achieve.apart from something happening that nobody wants to see.

[MC]

There have been many thoughtful and supportive messages in this thread, and I believe they reflect the majority view.

As I suspected, Stu is going through an incredibly difficult time, and my concern for his wellbeing was sadly justified.

He’s made serious mistakes — and he’s owned them fully. No one is trying to minimise the impact on others. But those who know him also know he’s been a kind, loyal, and generous friend for many years. That still counts.

None of us are defined by a single chapter, and I truly believe Stu will come through this stronger — however distant that may feel to him right now.

Not everything is black and white. I believe Stu has earned, and deserves, compassion far more than condemnation. I hope we can all keep that in mind.

And bringing up Blatchley as a comparison feels distasteful. I imagine, looking back, many of us wish we’d found more compassion in that situation too.

[celtic]

I am posting because I don't want silence to suggest anything but how deeply sorry, and devastated I am, and always will be.

I don't want anything I say to sound the slightest bit like an excuse,  the slightest bit like looking for sympathy.

I can promise that on both issues, with the football one being bad, and the poker one far far bigger, I have suffered massively, and , especially with the poker, can be sure that I will every day for ever.

My wife came home the day after I got home from Vegas to find me with knives and 30 paracetamol tablets.  I would have thrown myself in front of a truck on the last day in Vegas if it wasn't for a dear friend talking me through every step of the way. I have had suicidal thoughts ever since the football incident, and have had a period of time on anti depressants.  I have been very suicidal the last two weeks, and frequently think of throwing myself in front of a train. Some messages here may seem undeservedly supportive,  but they have kept me alive. I am trying to keep myself alive for my family, and 6 year old boy

I want to clarify the football thing. The poker consequences are all completely deserved.  They are deserved for ever. The football thing, I do believe I have suffered enough.

 I sang 'always the victims, it's never your fault.' I got punched, got arrested in the commotion. What I did was very bad. It deserves a football ban, deserves a fine. But 99.9% of the punishment comes in the articles being there for ever, and having exaggeration (Sheffield Star) up to 'mocking the dead.'

'Always the victims' is a generic football chant that I have heard multiple times on the TV before and since. I repeat, what I did was bad, but I want to clarify the whole thing. Obviously my mental health has been bad for a long time, and the football thing has put me in a deserved dark place for a long time since, the poker thing a deserved, far far deeper one

If you think getting convicted for a crime or fiddling a few quid from backers is enough to want you to commit suicide when you have a 6 year old child then you need to seek professional help and stop fannying around on a poker forum worrying about what a bunch of people think about you.

[MC]

Wow, what the actual fuck.

Ok agree with booder, close or delete the thread.

[easypickings]

I am posting because I don't want silence to suggest anything but how deeply sorry, and devastated I am, and always will be.

I don't want anything I say to sound the slightest bit like an excuse,  the slightest bit like looking for sympathy.

I can promise that on both issues, with the football one being bad, and the poker one far far bigger, I have suffered massively, and , especially with the poker, can be sure that I will every day for ever.

My wife came home the day after I got home from Vegas to find me with knives and 30 paracetamol tablets.  I would have thrown myself in front of a truck on the last day in Vegas if it wasn't for a dear friend talking me through every step of the way. I have had suicidal thoughts ever since the football incident, and have had a period of time on anti depressants.  I have been very suicidal the last two weeks, and frequently think of throwing myself in front of a train. Some messages here may seem undeservedly supportive,  but they have kept me alive. I am trying to keep myself alive for my family, and 6 year old boy

I want to clarify the football thing. The poker consequences are all completely deserved.  They are deserved for ever. The football thing, I do believe I have suffered enough.

 I sang 'always the victims, it's never your fault.' I got punched, got arrested in the commotion. What I did was very bad. It deserves a football ban, deserves a fine. But 99.9% of the punishment comes in the articles being there for ever, and having exaggeration (Sheffield Star) up to 'mocking the dead.'

'Always the victims' is a generic football chant that I have heard multiple times on the TV before and since. I repeat, what I did was bad, but I want to clarify the whole thing. Obviously my mental health has been bad for a long time, and the football thing has put me in a deserved dark place for a long time since, the poker thing a deserved, far far deeper one

If you think getting convicted for a crime or fiddling a few quid from backers is enough to want you to commit suicide when you have a 6 year old child then you need to seek professional help and stop fannying around on a poker forum worrying about what a bunch of people think about you.

Maybe it's not for me to respond. What I've done is awful, infinite times more than a post on a forum

But this is dire.

Not against me, that, any anything,  is deserved; but against suicide.

It's exactly attitudes like that that makes suicide the biggest killer amongst young men.  Most of those will have done far less than me. Many will have been through (and what Ive 'been through' is completely self inflicted) far less than me.

[celtic]

My message is aimed directly at you and your friends and not just a view on suicide in general.

[Pokerpops]

My message is aimed directly at you and your friends and not just a view on suicide in general.

Tell me you have not a scintilla of empathy or compassion without using those words.

I have no clue who you are, nor what you have done in the past to warrant your status as moral arbiter, but your recent posts make me instinctively aware that I wouldn’t want to spend time with you.
(I couldn’t give a fuck if you feel the same way)

[celtic]

My message is aimed directly at you and your friends and not just a view on suicide in general.

Tell me you have not a scintilla of empathy or compassion without using those words.

I have no clue who you are, nor what you have done in the past to warrant your status as moral arbiter, but your recent posts make me instinctively aware that I wouldn’t want to spend time with you.
(I couldn’t give a fuck if you feel the same way)

😄

[mouth]

My message is aimed directly at you and your friends and not just a view on suicide in general.

Tell me you have not a scintilla of empathy or compassion without using those words.

I have no clue who you are, nor what you have done in the past to warrant your status as moral arbiter, but your recent posts make me instinctively aware that I wouldn’t want to spend time with you.
(I couldn’t give a fuck if you feel the same way)

So ironic, because if you did know him, you'd know Celtic is a more compassionate and empathetic man than most.

From my own personal experience,  when my intrusive thoughts start to win , I struggle to tell anyone or speak about it. Suicidal people don't generally tell you about it , and definitely don't post about it on public forums.

Stu, I'm sure you felt dreadfully upset at being caught, and at the thought of people finding out, but you'll get through this . Opinions of strangers and vague acquaintances are not important. You've barred yourself from casinos so these people will soon forget you.

Your real friends will still be your real friends.

You've said you are sorry in your first reply. To say you're not looking for sympathy or trying to make excuses , but to then go on to talk about self harm and suicide,  to me that's a contradiction in itself.

If you hadn't have been caught out, you wouldn't feel bad. So you care only about your public persona rather than the moral angle of what you did.

So if you'd consider leaving your child and family, who love you unconditionally , because a forum of relative strangers know you scammed your backers, that's so sad. Genuinely reconsider going back on the antidepressants,  they're a long term drug and you may well have come off them too soon .

Wishing you only the best for your future.

[Pokerpops]

My message is aimed directly at you and your friends and not just a view on suicide in general.

Tell me you have not a scintilla of empathy or compassion without using those words.

I have no clue who you are, nor what you have done in the past to warrant your status as moral arbiter, but your recent posts make me instinctively aware that I wouldn’t want to spend time with you.
(I couldn’t give a fuck if you feel the same way)

So ironic, because if you did know him, you'd know Celtic is a more compassionate and empathetic man than most.

He’s hiding it well