Vegas planning questions

[Ironside]

Never been was planning for my 40th and then my 50th but health and then covid got in the way.
Got 1 more operation in planning and if they don't try and kill me this time (last 3 all went badly wrong) thinking of going in 26 or 27 at latest.
Got some cash saved up but not sure how much I need to have a fun time.
I am assuming as its USA everywhere is good for wheelchairs and the people in them.
a few questions
1) Outside of the WSOP when is the best time to go. I might try and go during WSOP and enter 1 or 2 smaller events but don't think my body would hold up to the ME.
2) Is it best to book for hotel and flights together or separately
3) Strip or off-strip
 

[Marky147]

I don't use my wheelchair in Vegas, but I do rent a mobility scooter, and Vegas is probably the most accessible city I've ever been to.

Only problems I regularly come across, are the elevators at the bridges sometimes being out of order, but that just means a longer trip around or crossing the road instead at a crossing.

Nowadays, there are sizeable festivals on every few months, but what I would suggest doing, is keeping an eye on the Wynn festivals, and play a few of their smaller events.

Much nicer cardroom and the events won't run for days, which alleviates the worries about being stuck for days in a tourney and ending up ruining the trip.

If you're going to do any gambling at all, book them separately. They can't comp you anything if you've already played.

If you're not going to gamble at all, then package usually saves you a few quid when booking through the airlines.

For a first trip, always the strip.

Park MGM is prob the best value hotel on the strip, and gives you the Bellagio & Aria at close quarters.

Alternatively, if you can stretch the hotel budget a chunk, Stay at Encore or Palazzo and you'll have two of the best card rooms without having to really trek anywhere.

[Doobs]

Thought Venetian Rooms and Casino wasn't very flat.  Don't think I'd pick them over the Wynn.  Suspect it is easier to get round the Wynn too, as all poker, most food on one level. More or less - you have to go down to Terrace Point Cafe, though think you can just go to bar etc without going down?  Jardin is ok from memory. There is a ramp at Red 8.  Think the buffet is flat. 

Marky, do you know if the Horseshoe is doable?  I thought it was fine, but know there are steps I walk up to Paris (never looked for a ramp).  All the cheap eats can be done via elevator? - I use an escalator, but think you could just get a lift - can't confirm if there is an elevator as I think I got there that way once by accident.  I think it is flat if you get there.  Think the main poker rooms are doable.  Daily deepstacks more of an issue, as it was up two escalators.  I assume there was a lift, but even if there was, it was pretty rammed up there. 10 handed and tables close together.

Loads of space around the Wynn poker tables.  There are some one day tournaments there, but the price point is significantly higher than daily Horseshoes.  Cheaper daily tournaments at MGM, Planet Hollywood and downtown.  Can't comment on how easy they are to get around in a chair (will say MGM is massive, think you may need to go the Scooter route unless marathon trained!).

[Marky147]

I've not been in the Palazzo cardroom since they moved to the new area, is it all sloped now?

The one they had by Noodles Asia was ideal, so it's annoying they've moved (twice?) since then.

I think that Wazuzu is about the biggest slope I can remember in the Wynn

Horseshoe is doable, there is an elevator at the front of the hotel, then you go on the walkway and at the end of that a lift down to the strip level.

There is a ramp in the middle of the steps on the walkway through to Paris from Horseshoe.

Horseshoe is probably the best value CET hotel, and if Iron is going during WSOP to play anything would 100% stay there or Paris.

[Doobs]

I've not been in the Palazzo cardroom since they moved to the new area, is it all sloped now?

The one they had by Noodles Asia was ideal, so it's annoying they've moved (twice?) since then.

I think that Wazuzu is about the biggest slope I can remember in the Wynn

Horseshoe is doable, there is an elevator at the front of the hotel, then you go on the walkway and at the end of that a lift down to the strip level.

There is a ramp in the middle of the steps on the walkway through to Paris from Horseshoe.

Horseshoe is probably the best value CET hotel, and if Iron is going during WSOP to play anything would 100% stay there or Paris.

Think my room at Palazzo was on two levels.  Ie bed and lounge area had steps between them?  So long since I stayed there.  Venetian/Palazzo has lots of levels I think.  Shops are a level up, then you go down to strip?  It is quite a slope if you go up from the strip to the shops (think you can do some of it on a travelator).  Sure have to go up and down for some food options.  They had that cardroom downstairs in the exhibition area for a while during WSOP.  It was a proper hike from the strip.  No idea where it will be next year. Doesn't seem very wheelchair accessible to me, but not the expert in this conversation. 

Obviously do the slope for Wazuzu.  Love it there.

[Marky147]

Think my room at Palazzo was on two levels.  Ie bed and lounge area had steps between them?  So long since I stayed there.  Venetian/Palazzo has lots of levels I think.  Shops are a level up, then you go down to strip?  It is quite a slope if you go up from the strip to the shops (think you can do some of it on a travelator).  Sure have to go up and down for some food options.  They had that cardroom downstairs in the exhibition area for a while during WSOP.  It was a proper hike from the strip.  No idea where it will be next year. Doesn't seem very wheelchair accessible to me, but not the expert in this conversation. 

Obviously do the slope for Wazuzu.  Love it there.

Misunderstood,  I was thinking cardroom, but you mean the actual rooms. I know from pictures that some of the standard rooms are on one level, and they'll also have wheelchair accessible rooms which will be the same.

There are elevators all around the property to get up/down but it's only really a couple levels and one elevator ride to nagivate around the two properties.

I've never taken my chair to vegas, and always used my crutches & a hired scooter, which makes it easier... Well, as long as you don't run out of charge on the way back to Wynn at 3am

I know they've moved a lot of the food court around at Venetian, and I think the new poker room is one floor up which was the same level as the food court before.

I've not been for over 2 years now, so can't accurately describe the new layout. I'd guess 2p2 probably the best place to get an up to date rundown on the mapping of the place now.

I will say that even though I've never used my chair there, I did pay more attention to it in the last decade I was going for obvious reasons, and it clears any other country I've been to in that department.

They could do with more wheelchair cabs, but that's about it

[tikay]

The "new" Venetian cardroom is UP one level, Level 1, alongside the "Old Shoppes" area. I did love the old Ground Floor area in front of the Sports Bar screens, but I have to say the new Room is just splendid, & is in the convo for the best cardroom I've ever been in. However, the tables are grouped quite close together, so not good for manoeuvring a wheelchair around.

I would say Iron's best bet if he wants to play a WSOP event or two is to stay at Horseshoe (previously known as Bally's) or Paris, so he is based "on site". Quite a surprisingly high % of players use wheelchairs or Mobility Scooters, so I assume there is good accessibility.

Lots of space around the tables at Wynn, but (imo) not a great selection of reasonably-priced Tournies. 

Palazzo? I've stayed there many times (thank you Sky) & my room/suite has always been split level, with 2 stairs taking you down to the window frontage, but they must have accessible rooms. Terribly expensive though.

Really, Horseshoe/Paris seems the sensible option imo.

[Marky147]

I thought that was where it was being moved, and it would be ideal for the food court, if that hasn't been gutted with the refurbs going on that side of the property.

Agree 100% if he wants to play some WSOP events then Horseshoe is the perfect job. Will be a fair bit cheaper than Paris, though I prefer to stay that side of the property.

I'm always in a scooter, but obviously use all the same pathways, and it's quite easy to navigate around Horseshoe/Paris during the WSOP, other than people seem to think you're invisible in a scooter

I only suggested Wynn as I know they have multiple festivals now and their smaller comps will be comparable to the WSOP ones on the most part.

You won't win monstrous figures, but you do know you're going to be done in a day and not hanging around for 3-4 which I presumed he was trying to avoid.
 
Downside is lumping up the expense costs a lot staying at the Wynn, though I know they have the 'poker rate' that brings it down some.

Think the most sensible would be WSOP/Horseshoe, as you say. Jump into a few mixed events and those won't be as manic as the colossus type NLHE ones.

Then you get the cheaper digs, and to do some bracelet hunting