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« on: February 11, 2006, 09:42:06 AM »

After the good discussion on the folly of laying down middle set on an unconected board, what about a connected board as this crops up often enough to be a problem worth considering.

Middle postion raiser of 4 x bb called by you on the button and the bb. A board of  , you have hit a set of tens and are last to act from the button.
BB checks
Raiser bets 2/3 pot
You double his raise
BB moves all in (has you covered)
Raiser folds

Are you calling?


Middle postion raiser of 4 x bb called by you on the button and the bb. A board of     , you have hit a set of tens and are last to act from the button.
BB checks
Raiser bets 2/3 pot
You double his raise
BB moves all in (has you covered)
Raiser folds


Are you calling?
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2006, 10:55:55 AM »

What are the chip stacks? Is it a cash game or a tournament?
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2006, 11:04:08 AM »

Cash game, in order to get a realistic decision, to easy to call in a tourney.

Stacks are whatever is an amount which would matter to you.

say it's NLHE $2/$4
Original raise was to $20
called by you and the BB
Original raiser (has $500) has raised to $40
You ($450) have re raised to $80
BB has moved all in for $400.

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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2006, 11:11:50 AM »

I think this completely depends on stack sizes.  Your going to be ahead some of the time, but up against a big draw.  In deep brown stuff slightly more than well ahead, but still a lot less than up against the big draw.  You are going to be drawing the rest of the time.  So lets say 10- 1 fav 5% of the time, 10-1 dog 10% of the time, 2-1 dog 40% of the time and even money 45%.  I think this all adds up to wiining about 40%, so I'm calling this if my pot odds are 6/4 or better.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2006, 11:17:01 AM »

Cash game, in order to get a realistic decision, to easy to call in a tourney.

Stacks are whatever is an amount which would matter to you.

say it's NLHE $2/$4
Original raise was to $20
called by you and the BB
Original raiser (has $500) has raised to $40
You ($450) have re raised to $80
BB has moved all in for $400.



Based on my analysis I'm calling here. 

Something has occured to me - does the size of the overbet increase the likelyhood of the big draw?  If it does maybe this is always a call.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2006, 11:18:54 AM »

I'm calling as well.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2006, 09:46:17 PM »

easy call in a cash game, tourney close to the bubble, i could consider laying it down to the right player.
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