Flawed Geniuses

[Ironside]

tyson should of been the best there was there best there is and teh best there every will be he was a natraul unfortunately he got involved with the wrong people and they were unable to keep his aggression in the ring this left him falling short of a career that could of been so much better

[Sark79]

i think valverde will finish on podium in paris this year and if he progresses he should win the year after and could possibly win for years to come

ulrich barring injuries will put up a good show and if he gets the support of telekom could win it but getting the support of telekom is not a certainty as they have other irons in there fire

Telekom are such a strong team. As well as Ullrich they have Oscar Sevila, Michael Rogers and Andreas Kloden. But they have lost Zabel and Vonokourov for this years tour.

[thetank]

Do these flawed 'geniuses' apear flawed because we expect too much of them?

....and is genius a term loosely banded around where people have documented flaws.


Yeah, I was joking about Bruno. I don't even like HP sace. He's a cracking Widow Twanky though.

[Sark79]

Do these flawed 'geniuses' apear flawed because we expect too much of them?

....and is genius a term loosely banded around where people have documented flaws.


Yeah, I was joking about Bruno. I don't even like HP sace. He's a cracking Widow Twanky though.

What is a Widow Twanky?... is that a Aberdeen saying?

I disagree about HP. Pepper and HP rule as far as I am concerned. My sister took four bottles back to the States last time she visited before Christmas. They can't get it in the US. It is a crappy fake type of HP and tastes bad apparently

[thetank]

Widow Twanky is Aladdin's mum in panto.

. They can't get it in the US. It is a crappy fake type of HP and tastes bad apparently

I guess they call it Pentagon Preserve over there.

[Nem]

What do you think of the Prince Naz comeback in summer, Nemesis?

Naz was a good fighter, the boxing equivalent of David Beckham. He was good, but not great. He had one great fight, against Barerra (who coincidentally is a true great boxer) and he got totally outclassed.

But saying that, Boxrec has Naz as the 2 greatest Featherweight of all time. But if you put him with the best Super Featherweights of all time, I wouldn't even put him in the top 10.

[AndrewT]

The problem with Prince Naseem is that, for the majority of his career, he was shielded from the really good fighters. A succession of nobodies were lined up for Naz to smash up in two minutes live on Sky to keep the TV people happy. Naz never had to take a punch because the other guys weren't good enough to hit him.

When it he finally fought Barerra (who, as Nemesis says, really is one of the best there is) Naz got hit. Hard. Really, really hard. Used to winning fights inside a few rounds with no real problems, Naz had to endure twelve rounds of pummeling. For the first time, Hamed knew what it was like to get a battering in the ring.

I think that his subsequent walking away from the game was simply because Hamed didn't want to get hurt, and was shattered by the revealation that, not only was he not the best fighter in his division, he was quite a way short of being the best. To get to the top would require lots of work, effort and sacrifice. He probably looked at his £20 million quid in the bank and thought "Sod that".

[Sark79]

Yea, but he is coming back. That shows alot of heart. I hope he is a success in the same way that Martina Hingis was at the Aussie Open recently. I was pleased she came back as well, mainly for her tennis skills and partly because I have always found her attractive 

Alot of people used to say " Just you wait untill Naz gets hit....it will be different then". During the Barerra fight, I sat there with all of Naz's critics in the local pub. At that point I didn't realise he was so disliked. Most of the younger people supported Naz and the slightly older people could see the weaknesses in his game.

I remember the documentary about Naz a few years ago. Up untill then I liked him. But after this all my respect disapeared.  He acted like a spoilt brat in this documentary criticising his opponents and complaining about his hotel room. The hotel room was in Vegas I think. It was a hotel room that for anyone else would have been a dream, but Naz wanted a different colour of wallpaper or something silly like that. That sort of behaviour is not something his fans like to see. I hope he is more of a Gent like Ricky Hatton is when he returns in Summer.

[graeme]

Losing those big riders will help Ullrich IMHO. Telecom now have a clear team leader, which they've never had before. None of the top guys were willing to ride for each other and they actually helped the other teams, especially A****** and Discovery, by chasing breaks when they should have been slowing their rivals down. Like I said, I really hope Ullrich does it - he's easily the most talented rider around right now - but his temperament is suspect and if he takes a good kicking and loses time in the second week he might not be strong enough to make it back. Ullrich, Valverde, Basso would be my perfect 1-2-3 but my head says Basso, Valverde, Ullrich. Sark: I have some sympathy for Millar but I know what you mean. He's lucky the new doping rules came in just after he was banned so he was able to ride for a big team when his suspension ended, which is not the case anymore. Pantani was booted out of the Giro in 99 for having a high haematocrit count, which organisers said was evidence of doping but is actually proof of any number of things. Poor old Marco's persecution complex got the better of him, he went into a tailspin and we know the rest. We'll have to agree to disagree about 'The American'. The way he chased down Simeoni a couple of years ago was a disgrace and he's lucky he was riding against a bunch of cowards who in the last four Tours have hardly turned a pedal against him. Mercxx, Hinault or even our own Robert Millar would have eaten him alive. Boorish, disrespectful, ignorant and very probably a cheat.

Naz has got a lot of work to do if he is serious about getting back in the ring. Saw a picture of him leaving court a couple of weeks ago and all I can say is, "Who ate all the pie shops?"

[Sark79]

I didn't realise about the new doping rules, Graeme. That should make people think twice about cheating.

I remember the Simeoni incident. But wasn't there a war or words going on between the two before that. I read an interview with simoni where he said Armstrong was a 'one race man'. This was probably the reason for his behaviour in that particular stage. Had it been any other rider, I don't think Armstrong would have done that. Maybey I am wrong though.

I haven't seen any pics of Naz for a while. Shouldn't take him long to get back in shape. He will have a good team behind him.

[Nem]

Takes most boxers 6-9 weeks to get into fighting shape, even if they've eaten a couple of pie shops.

[thetank]

How long was Rocky in Russia for before fighting Ivan Drago?

[Nem]

37.5 minutes

[thetank]

Now thats class. "If he dies....he dies"

Gotta love the message of Rocky V. Solve all your problems with a street fight kids.

[RED-DOG]

I just want to say  to Sark and Axxe

I think sarks post made some excellent points and was a very entertaning and informative read

I too thought I might become a pro snooker player and dedicated myself to it for many years, I even managed to support myself playing cash games for about a year, but eventually I realised that I would never be good enough, the standard was just too high

I have no regrets though, I enjoyed every minute